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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:11 pm 
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I was feeling good cos I'd had good interactions from cold with three girls in the daytime, and normally I keep myself to myself in the day.

Was in the library before it closed when I saw the HB librarian I've liked the look of, and demeanour of, for a while, but have never said anything to before. Today's got to be my lucky day I thought.

She was stood on her own by the door on the way out, looking into space when I slowed up and decided what the hell and said "you seem quite interesting, would you like to go out sometime?"
She smiles, taken aback, "no thanks."
"Ok, bye."

I know I know, no comfort, no rapport and just left it to an on the spot decision, might not have seemed all that playful either, grrr.

Ah well. On the brightside, the world didn't end by doing that. Although sometimes I might wish it did. Haha


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cheers. any action is better than no action. in this example you worked on your approaching habit muscle =)

i would also suggest you ask yourself what you could do better next time. if you don't ask then you will not improve.

your approach might have worked if you had superior fashion style with potential social proof. to me it sounds that she saw you and smelled how you hesitated. when you actually approached you did not say anything genuine, you know nothing about her.. what's so interesting about her? she knew u want her only for her looks + add the other parameters and u got blow out..

it's still way better than just staring, so cheers!

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Basically you did one really alpha thing by saying "you seem quite interesting" in a confident way. This is a great start. However you shot yourself in the foot with the AFC phrase "would you like to go out sometime?" straight afterwards. First off, you never ask anything. You TELL a girl what you think she is, you TELL her to put her number in your phone and you TELL her you want her to flip around so you can fuck her doggystyle.

Second poster is bang on. You didn't find out anything about her first, so the only reason you could possibly want to ask her out is because you find her attractive and want to have sex with her. This makes you low value in her eyes because you are the kind of guy that will push for sex with anyone regardless of their personality, therefore you don't have abundance and are not screening for any other traits apart from boobs.

Here's a better idea.

"Hi I noticed that you seem like an interesting person and I'd be kicking myself all day if I didn't come over say hi and find out more about you"

You can then immediately follow her reaction with "I get the vibe that you're a creative person" or "I really like your sense of fashion" or noticing something about her, and then see if she agrees or disagrees and explains something. If not, say a bit about yourself that has some qualification and screening questions built into it, for example "I'm having a crazy week right now, I'm setting up a new business and it's hard work but really rewarding now that things are getting off the ground. I love working with entrepreneurial, creative type people - are you like that?" etc.

Once you open and do a little DHV you can get to her personality very quickly because there is way less of a bitch shield during the day than at a club at night.

You only need spend 5-10 minutes before you now actually have material about her that you like, so then when you get her contact info and say you guys are gonna hang out soon, she is more likely to consent and will be less likely to flake.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:42 pm 
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Thanks sman, nice blog too.

I have heard her talk to other people though and she's patient and gentle.
And just typing that made me realise why my approach was even more wrong than I first thought! D'oh!!!

Although the point in asking her out was so that I could talk to her away from her workplace.

What should I say next time I see her? "Changed your mind yet?"
I actualy know a guy who does this with a barmaid. She's not said yes ever lol


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:48 pm 
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And thanks for the tips, blondguy.
Library's are different to shopping places, and a librarian is working so getting her time like that is harder and it's quiet so it'll be easily overheard.

Fucking excuses I know


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Thx Omega :)

Yea, the dynamic is different. It means that you could game her on slow track. Start with just hello, then move to whats up.. whats up + teasing and such..

blondguy is totally right with some of the things he said. From experience though, during the day & night I was able to get solid phone numbers within 1min of interaction without screening the girl. Not all girls are high value. Sure, it's way better to screen the girl, qualify, establish an emotional connection and the number is just another natural step in the way. Don't be strict to rules. It's not always possible to game a girl for 5min, especially when she's working.

Anyway, I would start thinking of how you could tease her based on her look, behavior. Don't insult her but tease playfully :)

You could also use some situational opinion opener regarding the books, establish some social comfort and start to teasing, spiking up her buying temperature and quaaaaaalification =)

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Personally, I probably couldn't resist the urge to tease her for being a bookworm :P That said, I see a lot of possible openers by asking about books. You could find a book and check it out with her or ask her to help you find one. Depending on your personality, you could choose something DHV (music, arts, martial arts), something silly (dating advice books), or something more direct (sexual stuff). Obviously haven't thought this through, but if you think about these, you have tons of conversation starters. Just be creative.


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