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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:56 am 
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I am again stuck between a rock and a hard place but it is a very different one. I, at first had a huge crush on a girl in my social group in college but now it is starting to annoy me. She totally ditched me and my friends tonight. I think she was talking to her boyfriend while surfing the web. I am getting tired of her and am starting to lose interest in her. However, I would still like to game her but not now. I realize that with my current group of friends, I might never end up with an attractive girl like I dreamed of only two weeks ago. I like my friends but they contain no benefits other than people I have a lot in common with. I don't always feel welcome in the social groups and am not even close to being the dominant one there. My friends are not filling this hole that has always been missing from my life and I need to fulfill it. Not only do I gain the experience I've always wanted but with a bit of merging old and new social groups, I can create jealousy plot-lines and pre-selection to gain respect in my current social group. I might have to ditch my old friends or spend less time with them but I have to do this to fill in the void of love in my life. I came to college to accomplish this (and graduate with a degree of course) and I can't have nothing stop me.

My question is this: Am I too late to make new friends in college? It's only been about two weeks but would it be weird if I started sitting at different tables in the dining hall to meet new people, even if it is with people who know my face? I'm guessing the answer is obviously no but where is the best place to start looking for friends in college aside from clubs/organizations? I am only planning to approach girls or mixed sets since I really don't have much in common with most guys plus they could be keeping the best women for themselves. I feel girls could be easier to approach to an extent. Any advice on taking the first steps into college game would be much appreciated. I am planning on starting in at least less than one weekm whenever I feel ready. Sorry this ain't in the official college game thread. I feel this question was unique enough to be it's own thread.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:56 am 
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I should also add that I do not like the whole party scene. I don't like parties. It is just not my type of environment. I'm looking to do this in a clean way. Any tips on how to find attractive women who does not enjoy parting so much? That seems very tough to find.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:48 am 
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Dude, I think you might need some coaching. You are all over the place....why not try to make friends with a cool group of guys, who do well with women, and just hang out with them and change up your lifestyle a bit :

start hitting the gym
dress well
be sociable (if you dont like parties, then be sociable during the day when you are on campus)
if you are going to a big enough college, there may even be a group of other pickup guys there! so why not try and get in contact with them, either by searching online, or possily going to a couple of local lair meetings.

instead of crashing and smashing around on this wave of emotions and getting all tangled up and confused, take some responsibility for your lifestyle and results.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:02 am 
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Dude, I think you might need some coaching. You are all over the place....why not try to make friends with a cool group of guys, who do well with women, and just hang out with them and change up your lifestyle a bit :

start hitting the gym
dress well
be sociable (if you dont like parties, then be sociable during the day when you are on campus)
if you are going to a big enough college, there may even be a group of other pickup guys there! so why not try and get in contact with them, either by searching online, or possily going to a couple of local lair meetings.

instead of crashing and smashing around on this wave of emotions and getting all tangled up and confused, take some responsibility for your lifestyle and results.
This is good advice Switchmaster.

From your last thread it appeared that you dont value yourself high enough and if you dont then nobody else will. To do this you need to be completely happy with everything in your life. I think the gym or running certainly helps. The satisfction you get from working out is immense and will boost your confidence.

I also agree with Switchmaster, if you go out just seeking to make friends with girls it wont work, you will be ruled more by emotions and that is something you really dont want. Make friends with guys, if they have high status then see this as a challenge to raise your game. I know you want to game this girl but i would suggest that if you improve your life she will sit up and take notice anyway. Maybe a good time to move on. What are you like in social arenas? Like Bars? I've learnt that if your willing to talk to everyone even guys your value will increase anyway because women will associate you as someone who is willing to have a good time and socialise with everyone. Do this around campus, im always talking to randoms and i get positive interactions out of everyone. My close friends think its brilliant cause i have no fear i'll speak to everyone. If your shy in bars then you wont get noticed.

Best thing you can say to yourself is dont create rules or boundries and rejection is inevitable its how you react to it. Your in the early stages of your development, i am also and i make mistakes. Its important to never make the same mistake.

Bit of a ramble there i apologise for that. You have to work at it all the time. Remember body language and a smile go along way.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:17 pm 
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Dude, I think you might need some coaching. You are all over the place....why not try to make friends with a cool group of guys, who do well with women, and just hang out with them and change up your lifestyle a bit :

start hitting the gym
dress well
be sociable (if you dont like parties, then be sociable during the day when you are on campus)
if you are going to a big enough college, there may even be a group of other pickup guys there! so why not try and get in contact with them, either by searching online, or possily going to a couple of local lair meetings.

instead of crashing and smashing around on this wave of emotions and getting all tangled up and confused, take some responsibility for your lifestyle and results.
This is good advice Switchmaster.

From your last thread it appeared that you dont value yourself high enough and if you dont then nobody else will. To do this you need to be completely happy with everything in your life. I think the gym or running certainly helps. The satisfction you get from working out is immense and will boost your confidence.

I also agree with Switchmaster, if you go out just seeking to make friends with girls it wont work, you will be ruled more by emotions and that is something you really dont want. Make friends with guys, if they have high status then see this as a challenge to raise your game. I know you want to game this girl but i would suggest that if you improve your life she will sit up and take notice anyway. Maybe a good time to move on. What are you like in social arenas? Like Bars? I've learnt that if your willing to talk to everyone even guys your value will increase anyway because women will associate you as someone who is willing to have a good time and socialise with everyone. Do this around campus, im always talking to randoms and i get positive interactions out of everyone. My close friends think its brilliant cause i have no fear i'll speak to everyone. If your shy in bars then you wont get noticed.

Best thing you can say to yourself is dont create rules or boundries and rejection is inevitable its how you react to it. Your in the early stages of your development, i am also and i make mistakes. Its important to never make the same mistake.

Bit of a ramble there i apologise for that. You have to work at it all the time. Remember body language and a smile go along way.
What do you mean by "I will be ruled more by emotions"? You are right that I may not value myself as much as I should. I do feel good after working out but I don't have a gym membership. Looks like I will have to substitute a few objects in my room for weights like a heavy case of water as well as do push ups and sit ups. The only thing I am scared of is that I am terrible at making friends with guys that are skilled with women. I feel like the odd one out. I don't like sports or drinking and don't look anything like them. Some of those excuses may be dumb but I have always had difficulty becoming friends with the "jocky cool guy" which seems to be the guys girls flock to. At social arenas, I usually have been pretty shy because I knew everyone there and they did not really like me. If I went to a place where I did not know people, I could be sociable if I really pushed myself but I'm really shy in nature.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:23 pm 
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The thing is here, noone is asking you to change who you are, but rather to "put your best foot forward".

The very definition of sociable means that you should feel comfortable and confident interacting with a wide variety of people, gaining their trust and making them feel good, whether they are:

guys/girls
gamers
jocks
rebels
cheerleaders

or whatever social cliques you might have at your college...You can become a social "connector" and move freely among all these groups.

In terms of your physical exercise, there is plenty of stuff you can do - go for a run 3 times a week, do 50 pushups every night before you go to bed, maybe some sit-ups too. very simple, but effective in building your strength, your fitness, and your appearance.

Trust me on this, I have always hung out with groups of guys that are very good with women, and i can tell you that there is no judgement really at all for those who dont get so lucky every time we go out - we just all have a good laugh and the most important thing is having fun with our boys we care about! noone really gives a fuck about if we pull of not and.....suprise suprise thats why we do pull!

So I think that whole thought cycle of worrying about guys wont like me if I cant pull is basically a complete fantasy - people dont think like that in real life. Now of course you do have to be reasonably normal and cool....guys arn't going to be too happy if you are chasing away their women either :P

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The thing is here, noone is asking you to change who you are, but rather to "put your best foot forward".

The very definition of sociable means that you should feel comfortable and confident interacting with a wide variety of people, gaining their trust and making them feel good, whether they are:

guys/girls
gamers
jocks
rebels
cheerleaders

or whatever social cliques you might have at your college...You can become a social "connector" and move freely among all these groups.

In terms of your physical exercise, there is plenty of stuff you can do - go for a run 3 times a week, do 50 pushups every night before you go to bed, maybe some sit-ups too. very simple, but effective in building your strength, your fitness, and your appearance.

Trust me on this, I have always hung out with groups of guys that are very good with women, and i can tell you that there is no judgement really at all for those who dont get so lucky every time we go out - we just all have a good laugh and the most important thing is having fun with our boys we care about! noone really gives a fuck about if we pull of not and.....suprise suprise thats why we do pull!

So I think that whole thought cycle of worrying about guys wont like me if I cant pull is basically a complete fantasy - people dont think like that in real life. Now of course you do have to be reasonably normal and cool....guys arn't going to be too happy if you are chasing away their women either :P
I totally understand now. I gotta be sociable to everyone. I guess I can start with talking to people in elevators or in the dining hall. I've done that before in elevators and it was fun but I never really followed up. I gotta get the contact info of almost everyone I meet. I just overheard my roommate who is on the phone and found out feels the same way (he is also in my social group) so maybe we can do this together. I also know a guy on my campus who was successful with MM. I know techniques and methods don't work in this environment but he probably possesses the confidence to approach anyone so maybe I can get a few pointers from him.


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The thing is here, noone is asking you to change who you are, but rather to "put your best foot forward".

The very definition of sociable means that you should feel comfortable and confident interacting with a wide variety of people, gaining their trust and making them feel good, whether they are:

guys/girls
gamers
jocks
rebels
cheerleaders

or whatever social cliques you might have at your college...You can become a social "connector" and move freely among all these groups.

In terms of your physical exercise, there is plenty of stuff you can do - go for a run 3 times a week, do 50 pushups every night before you go to bed, maybe some sit-ups too. very simple, but effective in building your strength, your fitness, and your appearance.

Trust me on this, I have always hung out with groups of guys that are very good with women, and i can tell you that there is no judgement really at all for those who dont get so lucky every time we go out - we just all have a good laugh and the most important thing is having fun with our boys we care about! noone really gives a fuck about if we pull of not and.....suprise suprise thats why we do pull!

So I think that whole thought cycle of worrying about guys wont like me if I cant pull is basically a complete fantasy - people dont think like that in real life. Now of course you do have to be reasonably normal and cool....guys arn't going to be too happy if you are chasing away their women either :P
I totally understand now. I gotta be sociable to everyone. I guess I can start with talking to people in elevators or in the dining hall. I've done that before in elevators and it was fun but I never really followed up. I gotta get the contact info of almost everyone I meet. I just overheard my roommate who is on the phone and found out feels the same way (he is also in my social group) so maybe we can do this together. I also know a guy on my campus who was successful with MM. I know techniques and methods don't work in this environment but he probably possesses the confidence to approach anyone so maybe I can get a few pointers from him.
You dont have to get everyones contact info right away cause this may come accross as being abit creepy, especially if its another bloke but chatting to people in all different social settings will improve your confidence and make you feel good about yourself. The girl im dating is amazed that i speak to everyone and geniunely doesnt how i do it. She does all the chasing after me. Im not saying this is right, but i dont let my emotions rule me anymore.

What i mean by that is if you act emotionally sometimes you act on impulse and do the wrong thing or even worse than that comes accross as being a wuss. Do not become a wuss, its the lowest of the low in the eyes of a woman.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:16 am 
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So there you go shear, perhaps the other guys in your social group arn't so different than you after all!

And dont worry about contact info, unless you really feel the need to stay in touch. A facebook add is a good way to start though....

Why dont you go out for a beer with this MM guy, and your other friend who is keen as well. Don't have an emo conversation, but just a frank discussion of where you guys are all at, and what your social goals might be for this year - then see if you can perhaps help each other out and spark something off. Fair enough?

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