I wanna open up another thread about our HB rating system. As a community, it would benefit us to standardize this and have everyone get on the same page. By having it all relative, it's a disservice to us because this forum is about advice. I just gave a kid a ton of advice about how he should handle this HB10. I can only speak from my own experience of how a 10 in my world should be handled.

When you guys say it's relative, that heavily skews everything and makes most of the advice offered potentially terrible advice. If I'm explaining to someone how I think he should game the HB10 he's asking about and his 10 is considerably less attractive then what I think (according to a statistical survey), my advice is going to be a huge disservice to him. I'm gonna be telling him that she gets hit on a ton and is absolutely beautiful in most everyone's eyes. She gets to be extremely choosy and usually only hooks up with the best-of-the-best.

So are we supposed to adjust the rating scale if a guy is the type of guy that is not likely to hook up with very hot girls due to: his looks, socioeconomic status, demeanor and confidence, weird attributes, etc...?

I don't really wanna give advice if a some guy's 10 is averaging statistically less than what I think a 10 is because it will work horrible. He'll neg her to death, wait too long to contact her, present himself as more of a challenge than he needs to, appear overconfident and overall come off more prickish and insensitive. This will surely turn his 10 off because she won't have needed to ever build up a bitch shield as a result of hoards of guys pining over her. She will feel that she is a more normal person and need a different style of gaming.

Here's my version on the rating scale. Let's hear yours!

HB's should only be rated on looks. Basically, by how much props you'd get from a huge group of guys if they looked at her naked body and face and then watched you fuck her. The more props - the higher the rating. I don't think social status and personality should play a part. Sure Oprah Winfrey has a high social status and maybe I'd marry her. Who knows. One thing I do know for sure is that I would hate fucking her for the rest of my life. She is definitely not getting a 10. Suzy slut ball down the block might get a 9 or 10 from me though if she all of a sudden got fake tits and guys jaws dropped when she walked by.


An HB7) This is a girl that I'd like to fuck but wouldn't brag about it to my friends and have no desire to fuck her again unless it was very convenient (calling her over when there's nothing better to do, she let's herself in the door, fucks you and doesn't interfere with your plans for that night.

An HB8) This is a girl that I'd really enjoy fucking and also call my girlfriend. I would consider her making the cut (not by a huge margin though) for being arm candy and feeling proud to be seen with her all over me by other guys.

An HB9) This is a girl that is considered very, very hot by everyone that I ask. It would be one of the most exciting things if she was into me and I thought she would be my girlfriend. I would consider myself extremely lucky to be seen with this girl. Everyone would be pining over her 24/7 and really be amazed that such a hot girl was my girlfriend. When I fucked her, it would be like nothing I've ever experienced before. I would be so horny all the time and anytime I jerked off, I would always think about her naked body and gorgeous face because there would be no need to fantasize about any internet porn.

An HB10) This is a girl that is jaw-dropping gorgeous. It would be safe to say that if you interviewed 500 guys, the majority of them would say she's absolutely stunning. I've lived in 4 major huge cities in my adult life and I would say there's maybe 10-15 HB 10's in the entire city. This is not very many at all. The likely hood of one ever giving you the time of day would be slim to none. Not only the hottest girl in the club that you're at but the hottest girl in all 25 clubs in a big circular radius of a downtown club strip. You would think you won the lottery if one of these girls wanted to be your girlfriend.

I don't count celebrities and other nationally/worldly famous people who are largely in the spotlight because of their looks. This is just unrealistic. There's women in Vegas, Cali, Miami and NYC, that would blow my HB 10's out of the water. I don't count these in the HB rating system. It would greatly skew the system because they are in such a tremendously high elite class just with their looks.

What do you guys think?

no see, a 10 is considered the best in the area.

all 10s are still gonna have the same behavior in relation to those rated below them.

while a cali 8 is a north carolina 10, you don't game the two the same. you game the cali 10 and the north carolina 10 the same, cause they're both cream of the crop, even if one is shittier crop.

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I agree with alot of your points on this. Different levels of attractiveness on women need to be handles different ways.

I just think that this is a flaw that's not going to be corrected. Or really, the problem basically rests in the fact that people are taking advice from others on a forum that have never seen or spoken to their target and dont really know the situation as good as if you were physically there with the person and could see his target.

The problem is solely that strangers will over a forum will never really in depth know the value of these women as compared to real life so the best anyone of us could offer is more of a broader solution to the problem. Not that the answers people give aren't ever helpful, thats definitely not the case, but we're just at too much of a disadvantage to really give that kind of an in-depth solution.

Maybe this flaw goes even deeper than just the ranking system. The basics of gaming are to be able to connect with women and make them want something more with you ,and while the ways of dealing with different women on this site and others aren't wrong or anything, defining a woman by number in general is just flawed.

There's so many scenarios and personal preferences that go into the process of sorting out an attractive woman from an ugly woman I dont think there really can be a clear cut universal ranking system. My 10 could be another man's 8.

But I do know what you were getting at....if I was out with a group of guys and we were singling out a particular, im sure we could all come to an agreement about where she would rank. But if me and a buddy took notice of a girl passing us down the street, my mind may say 6 while his says 9.

This system could work if there were men getting together on the regular in real life and going sarging as a group. There's just too many people with too many opinions and experiences to really have a clear cut ranking system like this over the internet where were all basically just anonymous.

It's perfectly fine for guys like us to come together and share experiences and offer information and tips on basic ideas and rules that have worked for each person individually but in the end, all we can really do for someone we know nothing about is to help them according to our own knowledge and experiences and what we would do in their shoes.