She is very stubborn about telling me and I want to find out if shes a virgin our not too since shes 18. Now I have already built a lot attraction but, I need to know this kind of things before I get in a deeper relationship with her. She would tell after a while but, I would rather know now I get this feeling that shes a closet slut to avoid getting cheated on. Any help is great on getting her to tell me since she kept saying she'll think shes bad.

Why do you care?

The amount of people a woman has had sex with has absolutely zero effect on who she is as a person and is the least accurate barometer of how faithful she'll be I can think of. Her sexual history should be between her and the men she had sex with, however few or many that may be.

You are on a forum dedicated primarily to increasing the amount of sex its members have, yet you want to impose some ridiculous double standard on this girl whereby she becomes somehow less valuable because she enjoys getting laid? What sense does that make?

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[quote="870"]Why do you care?

The amount of people a woman has had sex with has absolutely zero effect on who she is as a person and is the least accurate barometer of how faithful she'll be I can think of. Her sexual history should be between her and the men she had sex with, however few or many that may be.

You are on a forum dedicated primarily to increasing the amount of sex its members have, yet you want to impose some ridiculous double standard on this girl whereby she becomes somehow less valuable because she enjoys getting laid? What sense does that make?

True ladies' men know that a girl who knows what she wants and pursues it aggressively is something to be celebrated. Join us.

Your boy,
870[/quote]
A girl being a slut does actually has a huge effect on a relationship it doesn't turn out well for the guy. Also women can't be puas since it is far too easy for them to be sluts. As a member here you should know the guy should know all the cards so if she does cheat nothing will be lost and a lot easier to deal with if you at least have that in the back of your mind. Because women can really cheat anytime they want knowing her sexual history just puts me a step ahead. Not to mention it can put some people back into a afc and women hating state.

so at what point does a women become a "slut"?

you sound incredible misogynistic and sexist.

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AMEN!! if the number is more than 0, you dont want to know anyway. so why bother asking?? who cares who she slept with, as long as she is sleeping with you now. and besides, she is only 18. most girls dont hit their slutty phase till 20-22, so even if she is a virgin now, she may very well cheat on you down the road anyway. they all get curious about what another man will feel like at some point.

WHO FUCKING CARES

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Your being too picky with it mate, leave it be. If your worried about her being a V just ask, otherwise leave it.

I gotta say that calling a girl slut already makes me feel bad. This would should be demolished from existence.

It sounds to me that you have some inner game issues. What I mean is that you have certain believes that claim that having sex with many partners is bad. Is it the case?

The fact you ask this questions makes me think you are a man of values and never cheated on a woman. There can be only two options I see:

1. You have slept or want to sleep with many girls. I.e, you are a potential "slut". if that's the case, and you are never cheating then there's no reason that the scenario for the girl you are seeing is gonna be different.

2. You don't want to have sex with many girls because of your values, which is completely fine ( I don't judge your values ). Assuming this is the case you probably wanna find a girl that shares the same values. But then again you should ask yourself what's the legitimate number of guys she's slept with and what isn't.

If she slept with 2 then she's ok? what if those are 3 or 7? or 10? what difference does it make?

Even if that was the case, maybe many guys mislead her and made her think she's having a relationship with them but they only wanted sex. Maybe she likes sex and decided to experience as much as she can before getting into committed relationship so that she does not have the temptation to cheat..

I say that leave the girl alone and don't ask those kind of questions. It's better for both of you. Just learn to know her as a person.

p.s. when I sleep with girls. Even for one night stands. If I ever think that some other guy slept with the girl I'm sleeping now then it makes me feel disgusted.

Feel free to advise.


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Stop worrying about her past and stop limiting your options to a minority of girls. Personally i prefer "slutty" girls (though I don't refer to them as sluts), as virgins tend to be more stuck up and less experienced.
There is nothing wrong with a wee nympho who loves shagging and it doesn't mean that she will go sleep around behind your back, or leave you for another guy as that could happen with any girl.

I can understand where you're coming from, bro.

A while back I was seeing a young girl (17), FYI legal in the UK! For about two weeks, I thought she was really cool and she was very pretty, it was all cool. One day at lunch at a Chinese restaurant she gave away, that she may have had many previous sexual partners and got very defensive. I got very obsessive. Initially I was very concerned as I had unprotected sex, yet she assured me that she had been tested and subsequently I got tested and was fine. Yet, it did not stop me from being obsessed with finding out how many it was. My whole opinion of her had changed from when I first met her. I think one of the reasons it concerned me was she was always defensive and looked shameful whenever anything related was brought up. Because of my restless pointless, toxic thoughts of her past, she revealed to me that she had slept with a married man at her work and however common this maybe in reality, it made her feel like shit. She was a really cool girl, but she had low self esteem and tended to be quite needy, so we broke up later on.
This was all before my knowledge of the community and I think we all know those amazing epiphanies that re-framed our view of dating and indeed life, that pick-up has brought to our life. I would like it to be known that a girls sexual past has zero impact on my view of them, in fact I quite enjoy and respect a free spirit, with all the social constraints they have, not to mention the lack of LMR issues.

Moral of the story: change your view or you face making a lot of girls unhappy!

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