This is not making sense to me. I feel like a true afc now because of last wednesday.

Please help

I have been going sarging with my buddies at the shopping mall and just doing simple approaches.

First time i went we just approached asked a question like "quick question do you know where the washroom is?" After getting really confortable we tried getting rejected ... in other words i would say "quick question... what do i have to do to get a date with you?". Girls would laugh and walk away.. ask if its a dare.. just rejections. around 13 approaches

Next time i went to the mall i started asking for numbers. Name and numbers and my goal was to just get the name and ask the number. So I got a few girls names and asked the number (the girls all said no.. but one asked for mine). around 15 approahces

Now last wednesday... I thought i had enough experience in the approaching field and felt i needed to finally try and get the number. Using things like magic tricks... cold reading and better openers. My first approach i felt was good... a nice girl sitting down hb8 eating by herself. I go to her "quick question can i show u a magic trick?" and she said sure. We talked i fooled around with my magic making her laugh ... then i ask her name she said it then i ask her number she said no and said she doesnt give numbers. In my head... like ifne its the first approach and i felt i did good. After about 3-4 more approaches everything turned down hill.
I tried approaching a group of girls walking... one girl said dont talk to us. I laughed but started to feel the rejection.
Every girl after that.. and I mean like every friken girl i approached didnt even talk.
The opener I used was "quick question can i get your oppinion on somthing" (I had 2 cologns sprayed on each wrist i wanted to know which smelled better. The girls all either said "no" "thats kinda creepy" "no thanks" or they didnt say anything and walked away. I am talking maybe 10 girls in a row all rejections... how is that possible? LAw of averages is fucked up.

My friend who is 4 years experience good at pua said that i am aproaching from straight on and i have to approach from the side so that it looks like im walking away. The last approach i did i made sure that i approached from the side of my body and still .. "quick question can i get a femails oppinion on something?" she said "whatt?" I repeat she said " no..."

My thought that maybe today is just a bad day for me... i heard of people on pua saying that somtimes they have bad game days. But i told my friend the guy whos good and he said there is no bad days.

Why is this not working on me... I REALLY feel like giving up because this all feels like some bullshit. My confidence was SO HIGH... now its soo LOW and i dont know how to bring it back witout suceeding...or seeing improvments. After learning and practicing pua, my friends see difference and they say im desperate and that im like crazy n shit.

The only thing i can think of is that this pua wont work on me because maybe im not good looking enough.

“like fine it’s the first approach and i felt i did good. After about 3-4 more approaches everything turned down hill.”

First of all, you don’t have bad “days”, you might have bad moments! But not days. Remember that. It’s all a mindset.

In the beginning it’s all a numbers games. Towards the end its more a skills game. Do you think that the top class PUAs gave up after a few rejections.

NO. They sat down, thought about where they went wrong and retried.

If you look like a pua, walk like a pua, talk like a pua,and act like a pua, YOU WILL BE A PUA. 9just try not to let people know. lol

Instead of asking "quick question can I get your opinion on something". Try saying “quick question” then just ask the question.
Also try and use your surroundings when thinking about the question. So for example. If your at mall say “quick question, do you know a decent store to get jeans from”, they reply, then ask, is that the only store in here, then you can say, in a slightly excited voice, cutting them short, like you have just remembered. “Oooh, actually while you girls are here, let me get you opinion on something, be nice to have a woman’s point of view, I was......... “ bobs ur uncle fanny’s ur aunts. I’m not an expert at PUA or opening. But I’m good in sales and beating down the defences . Oh and also just so u know, don’t use that above example, i just made that up, its not the best.

it sounds like a good idea.
Its just that my confidence is really low now and im afriad to approach girls now because i automaticlly assume i will get rejected just like the last 10 girls i approached.

I have started reading a new book 60 years of challange.
Very helpful book... and it talks about the magic number... the number of girls you have to meet to find a good one.

My guess is that my magic number is around 50 maybe more cause i have not seen any success so far. That brings my self esteme down even more.

I personally hate lines and i feel i do better with natural game (or game where i just think of somthing about the surroundings and say). When ever I am in a book store I always see positive results because i talk to the girls about certain books like twilight lol.

Your idea about the opener clothes thing and then "oh yea while ur here... can i get ur oppinion" is a good idea i should have used lol.

Thanks for the reply

Don't ask for their opinion. Just say "I need a female opinion... ". Asking for it gives them the opportunity to say "No".

"Can I show you a magic trick?" is horrible. You could try instead "Do you believe in spells?" that way no matter what she says you can just move into the magic trick. If I were you I'd try to approach girls and just have a genuine conversation about something. Maybe someone's birthday is coming up and you're not sure what to get them. Go to the mall and ask people! That way when they say something you're genuinely interested in why they think that present is a good idea, you can explain the person you're buying a present for, ask them if they know anyone similar and what they got them etc.

If you go out with the sole purpose "Today I'm going to get a number!" you can be disappointed if you don't get one. If you go out thinking "I'm going to approach people, be sociable and if I get along with them set up a time in the future where we can hang out" then you're in the right mindset.

Dont say ''Can i?'', this implies they have choice. Your opener is just too timid.
Be more forceful with it, and dont give them a choice in whether they can to reply or not.

If girls are saying no or that's kinda creepy' I am just wondering how you are rooting the opener? If Someone walked up to me and said which one smells better and shoved their hand in my face I'd be a little taken back.

"I was helping my best mate moved recently and we found all these colone bottle he's been given. He didn't want them - he already has his signature scent. I don't. That's where you come in..."

That's a true story and I'm currently between gio and ck one.

I know I'm new to the forum. am I on the right track?

Mostly having succes or not depends on how you opened them. For example, it is very important to smile. If you smile when you open, chances to get blown out reduce a lot. Also, it is clearly to me that it went downhill after you started to feel bad for getting a first very bad reaction. So your state must have been terrible ... you were feeling not confident, unhappy, ... and girls can just sense that and if they do, you are out. It has nothing to do with your looks. Of course, if you look like a weirdo odds are bigger to get blown out. But if you dress normally and open them in a friendly way with a real and sincere positive energy, you can't get blown out at a high rate.