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I am not going to do any drugs or alcohol in college since there are not benefits to doing them. I don't care about other people doing it
sorry bro, but welcome to the real world. There ARE benefits to doing these things.
First of all, as you can probably tell, frats host parties all the time, and alcohol is a main part of this. Hot sorority chicks are also present, usually drunk. Other than frat parties, we guys invite other guys over for the weekend sometimes, toss a few beers and watch the game.
Second, weed. Usually, you don't smoke alone. At least I don't. When I smoke, its always with friends that I get along with.

here's how this relates to your situation. It puts you on the same level as the others on the field. Say some guys are having some guys over to watch the game. it is expected that everyone drinks, yet you are completely abstinent. Next time, they may not invite you. This is bad for you since, at these get togethers, future plans and events are usually created. You will miss this valuable contribution to the group, and the knowledge, if you are not hanging with them!
people connect with others that are like them. As animals, we look for similarities. Statistically, it seems that people who are social drinkers and social stoners have a lot more friends, connections, and a better social life than those that don't.
*my point is that it helps you connect to people, and creates a bond with others. I never drink/smoke alone. I do it in a social fashion to bond with others.

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I am not going to do any drugs or alcohol in college since there are not benefits to doing them. I don't care about other people doing it
sorry bro, but welcome to the real world. There ARE benefits to doing these things.
First of all, as you can probably tell, frats host parties all the time, and alcohol is a main part of this. Hot sorority chicks are also present, usually drunk. Other than frat parties, we guys invite other guys over for the weekend sometimes, toss a few beers and watch the game.
Second, weed. Usually, you don't smoke alone. At least I don't. When I smoke, its always with friends that I get along with.

here's how this relates to your situation. It puts you on the same level as the others on the field. Say some guys are having some guys over to watch the game. it is expected that everyone drinks, yet you are completely abstinent. Next time, they may not invite you. This is bad for you since, at these get togethers, future plans and events are usually created. You will miss this valuable contribution to the group, and the knowledge, if you are not hanging with them!
people connect with others that are like them. As animals, we look for similarities. Statistically, it seems that people who are social drinkers and social stoners have a lot more friends, connections, and a better social life than those that don't.
*my point is that it helps you connect to people, and creates a bond with others. I never drink/smoke alone. I do it in a social fashion to bond with others.

hope this helps!
Can't I just fake it? I'm pretty sure abusing substances does not define how many friends I can get in college. They are only gonna hate me if I comment on it. If I am offered, I'm just gonna politely say "no thanks" and nothing more.


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of course you can fake it, especially girls do this, might be a little bit harder for guys, but I know guys who definately fake it but don't admit...
question is: do you want to pretend to be someone you're not and do something you find to be repulsive/ bad for your body? because even in moderation alcohol is still bad. I'm a moderate drinker but I used to be totally clean and I feel people should accept who you are and your decisions.
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it is expected that everyone drinks, yet you are completely abstinent. Next time, they may not invite you. This is bad for you since, at these get togethers, future plans and events are usually created. You will miss this valuable contribution to the group, and the knowledge, if you are not hanging with them!
people connect with others that are like them.
if they don't invite you again, it's the wrong network or you did something else wrong. If you are a confident, interesting person with good social skills, people might be irritated but accept you being different so some degree.
I'm also an ethical vegan btw and stick out in many ways, yet in social settings/ clubs I usually get along well and have managed to be respected. I don't make as many close friends maybe or get access to all information, but I'd rather be myself and get along fairly, have an o.k. network with some advantages than have huge networking skills by not being myself anymore.
Oh and one of the most important things I've learned about networking is that you don't have to get along with everyone or convince anyone, but it's more improtant to impress the right people, even if it's just a few.
For PU many strategies rely on getting along very well with a wide range of people and making a good move on almost any girl.
But maybe these strategies just might not be right for you. Maybe night game just might not be right for you. It might also be less of a hassle alltogether, if you go for a PU strategy where you don't have to completely change who you are, but build on other strenghts.

Anyways, if you do want to fake it:
stick to beer or other light drinks and avoid hard liquor as much as you can
greasy, heavy food before drinking
just take smalls sips of the beer, make it last, be seen alot with the beer in your hand, in front of you so it looks like you're drinking all night, but it's only your 3rd beer or something
if you do have to drink hard drinks, avoid taking several shots in a short time.
It takes about half an hour to feel whether it's ok to continue drinking or you are losing control of your body/actions
Oh but the easiest way is of course: be the driver! has other advantages

But I thought your idea was good of offering other activities, where people usually fon't drink or at times where drinking is unlikely. You might build a niche if it''s not too nerdy, wou offer something special, and you don't freak our if someone does bring beer. But if you're really really stirict you might just have to stick up a few times and otherwise besocially cool and filter out a few people you donÄt want as friends anyways and then build your own base of people.


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I have a PuA friend who loves to work out/bodybuild and he hates to drink. It effects his training. In order to fake it, he orders club soda with a lime at the bar/club. This way he looks like he is pounding hard booze while remaining sober and in top game form.

I never have my best game when I am drinking. It makes it hard to remember what line or routine you are trying to do. It does help with confidence, but it is false confidence. If you need booze to talk to women you will never get to where you want to be.

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Uni Game can be one of the easiest forms of game. It can set a foundation for future game, creates great friendships and connections for the future, and can ultimately make you as a person. Here are my top 10 tips for University/College students to maximise your game, be a super-popular campus legend, and fill up your little black book over the next academic year...

1. Get involved - in absolutely everthing. This is key. You must get involved right from the start and be constantly meeting people in order to establish yourself. Starting from freshers week - be at every party/event, join teams/clubs (sports teams are great because you will make a lot of male friends - popularity & social status). Go into your student union, meet the staff and sign up for all the various activities etc.

2. Networking - Facebook friend everyone! Anytime you meet someone male or female, get their details and add them on facebook. Constantly be active on facebook and get to know people in and around your Uni. Even create a list of Uni friends, this is particularly useful for parties/events and sending out invites to the list via facebook, or sending out a joke/sharing a video and getting people talking about it.

3. Lairy fashion sense, funny t-shirts - turn heads and get attention with a good, unique fashion sense and occasionally wear funny t-shirts. My pal at Uni wore a t-shirt that said "A blow job is better than no job!", and the amount of female attention he got for it was unbelievable. So many girls just kept coming up to him to say how funny it was, and started conversation with us from that. We managed to arrange a night out with girls we just met off the back of that. Talk about effective!!

4. Talk to everyone - Self explanatory really. Don't have to stop and have a conversation with every tom, dick and harry, but say hello to people, always walk around head high with a smile, and be approachable. Also, another tip - try not to walk around campus on your own too often. Always be with people - remember, social status at Uni is like having a 10-inch dick!

5. Create social circles - don't always hang around with the same people. At the same time don't become a social slag, or it will appear that you have no real friends and are just a tag along with whoever will have you! Create new social circles by getting different people together, and introducing everyone to each other. A lot of people find it hard to introduce themselves or make friends and will greatly appreciate someone who helps them network.

6. Introduce people to party games/ drinking games/ dares etc. - This always spices up a party when someone suggest a game or starts making dares. Research some good drinking games, and be in command when it comes to playing them. With dares, think of some funny, memorable ideas that will really get people talking and create perfect kodak moments.

7. Be daring - but NOT the class clown! - If you think of an extreme dare or stunt, don't suggest it unless you are prepared to do it yourself. Stick to humour rather than danger, and something that takes real balls to execute. Do NOT be known as the one who does all the sick, grotesque dares that require extreme stupidity rather than courage, for example, don't suck up someones vomit through a straw because everyone thinks it will be funny. People relate this to someone who is seeking attention and validation.

8. Set your standard - go for the hottest chicks right away, that will then be your standard, don't get too drunk and shag a fat, ugly bird for a laugh!

9. Get a job - getting a job while your at Uni is important for different reasons. First of all it brings in extra cash, which allows you to go out more. And secondly and more importantly it creates another social circle - your work buddies (and regular customers in some instances). The best jobs are by far bartenders. As a bartender you have authority, plus everyone has to be nice to the bartender, and if you are good fun and start some banter you will the most popular person in the bar. This is of course crucial for when you are the other side of the bar. Also it allows you to get to know bouncers/doormen from other bars/clubs, those of you who have watched the lifestyle seduction dvd series will know why this is important.

10. Be the organiser - Take the responsibility of organising parties, nights out and other social events. Once you get a name for organising awesome nights out, you will become the Van Wilder of your Uni! And make it interesting, not just a standard night out, but themes, students love dress-up. Arrange pub golf nights; hawaiian cocktails and grass skirts night; dress up as smurfs, animals, celebrities, cavemen....etc. Arrange a BBQ in the local park (or beach if your campus is near a beach - mine was and our beach parties were immense, lots of sex on the beach - and I don't mean the cocktail!!) charity events - build and race chariots for charity, football matches, fashion shows - get involved with the girls in the fashion department. If your living in a student house, have house parties, and make an effort to make them the best - again themes, cocktails, games, good music - even get a band to play to really show off! The list is endless, just try and be original and involved in everything.



There are my top 10 tips in no particular order. Follow them and I guarantee Uni will be for you, as memorable as it was for me.

Be a LEGEND!


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These are some great tips! I'll be sure to use them in my last year of uni


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Hi I'm just wondering something regarding friends and going out (clubbing) in terms of University/College (In USA).

Basically I'm going to University soon and my friends have gone. They all seem to have gone out to clubs in their first week due to it being freshers.

I wondered how exactly is this organised? I like going to clubs but I can't imagine random people you've known less than 1 hour saying "lets go out tonight" - to me it doesn't seem natural. I mean personally I think it would be great if someone just said "lets go now" to everyone - but does this actually happen?
Back home I go out with friends I've known for some time - the trust is there. I understand that when drunk it will all be cool - but what about in the day time...am I expected to just be invited along with a bunch of randomers or am I wrong?

And in the first few days what am I to do? People say "go out there" but it's not like real life where you can do all kinds of stuff on a campus. I imagine I'll only be seen when buying/cooking food and stuff, unless I make a friend immediately. This links back to the above thread that how do the cliques come together in the first place?

Or am I underestimating the friendly University culture where everyone is involved?

As you can see I'm really pondering this and would welcome all responses.


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Hey guys. so I'm brand new to the PUA world and i'm looking at a lot of stuff. I'm having trouble focusing on anything specific so i'm hopin you guys could share some of the things I should learn first to make a solid base to go on from. Thanks!


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Hey guys. so I'm brand new to the PUA world and i'm looking at a lot of stuff. I'm having trouble focusing on anything specific so i'm hopin you guys could share some of the things I should learn first to make a solid base to go on from. Thanks!
Don't become a PUA. It's not a solid base.

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Hey Guys!
Im a realy youngblood in the PUA scene, until now I'm just getting some theroetical stuff together so I can practice on human beings ;)
Enough with this stuff. Thats not why I'm posting in this Thread, I hope its at the right place.

I've got a course that has nothing to do with my core subject of my study. In this course is a gril I realy would like to play the game on, but I dont know how to open her or in the first place when to open. The cours runs now about 6 weeks and it will run 3 or 4 weeks longer, with circa 15 students, every monday morning at 8am to 10am. Thats the only time I see her.

My thoughts about are:

Catch her in the Train/Bus. But I've never seen her in a Train or Bus, so it seems to me, that she is driving with a car. Sometimes she is late, sometimes to early in the room. So there is no real time I could catch her before the course. When the cours is running, its not able to get a chat with somebody, our prof. is realy grim.

After the cours she meets allways with some grils from the course, she's realy fast out of the room with them.

An other Problem is, that I'm studing at a University, that is cut into two differend citys. So the only time I see her is at this god damn monday morning.

I'm realy helpless, caus of my lack of knowledge in the PUAS, I dont know how to start.. Hope I'm getting some help!


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Hey guys. so I'm brand new to the PUA world and i'm looking at a lot of stuff. I'm having trouble focusing on anything specific so i'm hopin you guys could share some of the things I should learn first to make a solid base to go on from. Thanks!
Don't become a PUA. It's not a solid base.
Agreed. You don't want to be a pick up artist. And frankly, I think the term has become a little jaded. The community has come a long way- if you want solid game, you need to work on more than just memorizing techniques, even effective time-tested ones. You need to work on yourself. There are so many resources out there, but I would recommend first reading "The Game" by Neil Strauss just to get a feel of the pros/cons of the "pick up" game. I just started my self, and I'm working primarily on my inner game than anything else.

Also, one thing I'm beginning to realize is that 90% of your success will depend on your confidence level. I don't mean fleeting confidence where you finally muster the courage to wall over to that cute girl in the bookshop to whimper a sweet "Hello"; I mean solid, immovable, and perpetual state of confidence. In other words, you feel like you're on top of the world- yet you are above no one and below no one. You're just you, and that's all that matters. Most of us have had this feeling at one point or another in our lives, but those are just mere moments. Maintaining that confidence requires a deep understanding of who you are and how you fit into the world, and that ain't easy.

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I heard about this stuff from a friend. I'm sorry if this sounds weird, but is this stuff real? What's wrong with just talking to a girl? Do you really need all this extra bs just to get some #'s? I'm not trying to be rude, I just dont understand the necessity for all this...social engineering i guess. Are yall extremely introverted, and this stuff helps you break out, or do you just do this stuff for another reason? Im skeptical, but if this is real, pardon my ignorance.


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I heard about this stuff from a friend. I'm sorry if this sounds weird, but is this stuff real? What's wrong with just talking to a girl? Do you really need all this extra bs just to get some #'s? I'm not trying to be rude, I just dont understand the necessity for all this...social engineering i guess. Are yall extremely introverted, and this stuff helps you break out, or do you just do this stuff for another reason? Im skeptical, but if this is real, pardon my ignorance.
This is incredibly real.

In an essence it's about learning how women work and learning about social interactions in general. Once you have all this knowledge you can construct ways to get reactions out of people you want. For example, you can talk to a hot girl and make her attracted to you using the techniques, even if you're some ugly dude and get laid.

Also, regarding the topic of drug use in Uni game. Let me just say that last year at university I didn't do much, didn't go out too much and get involved with much or anything. It was miserable. After learning all this stuff I know have a great bunch of new friends and am constantly going to sick parties and hooking up with girls I only wanked over in the past and never dreamed of it. Drugs / Smoking are fantastic tools in Uni game. I don't smoke, however I always have some Rizla's and a lighter on me, why? - Because the amount of people that ask you for those things is incredible. It starts a stupid amount of conversations.


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I should of read this thread when the quarter started :D


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Since the college environment is so closed, especially at my school since sororities are big with not many of them, how do you open? I know you said once you make a friend they talk you up to other people, but if you don't have that yet or they aren't around then what type of indirect openers work? From what little experience I have it seems to me that the openers need to come naturally from the environment so as not to be repeated to others in the same social circle, but coming up with these openers is a big downfall for me at this point.


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