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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:02 pm 
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Is lying really neccesary in PU?
like when your'e having small talks(fluff) with HB, or would it be wiser to just think that everything they do is a shit test?

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Is lying really neccesary in PU?
like when your'e having small talks(fluff) with HB, or would it be wiser to just think that everything they do is a shit test?
What do you mean, man?

You don't really want to be in the headspace where you have to consciously think of passing "shit-tests". Yes, some girls will test you, but if you're on top of your game (ie, dominant, don't give a f*ck as much attitude) then you'll pass them without too much work.

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Is dating necessary? Is seducing necessary? Is getting laid necessary? These are the questions that you ask and answer yourself.

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Is dating necessary? Is seducing necessary? Is getting laid necessary? These are the questions that you ask and answer yourself.
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no lying is not necessary, DHV is not about WHAT you say in the story, you don't need a good story to be SEDUCTIVE, you just need to flirt kind of "talk the talk walk the walk" type of thing

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If you have to lie about your lifestyle and what you do on a regular basis, you really need to change your lifestyle.

No, you don't have to lie.. ! :) Just change your life if you not are satisfied with it.

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Is lying really neccesary in PU?
like when your'e having small talks(fluff) with HB, or would it be wiser to just think that everything they do is a shit test?
Lying is not necessary. If you are not OK with lying, it can (and it will) do you more harm then good, because you will have a conflict inside of you. If you don't give a shit about being a lair or not and are totally OK with lying, then it will probably not do any harm.
Punch line: If it fells wrong to lie, then I suggest you not to lie.


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Is dating necessary? Is seducing necessary? Is getting laid necessary? These are the questions that you ask and answer yourself.
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no lying is not necessary, DHV is not about WHAT you say in the story, you don't need a good story to be SEDUCTIVE, you just need to flirt kind of "talk the talk walk the walk" type of thing
Wait, why're you BS-ing my post? I'm passing no judgement, it's idiotic to call it BS.
All I'm saying is, the OP would know better than anyone.

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Is dating necessary? Is seducing necessary? Is getting laid necessary? These are the questions that you ask and answer yourself.
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no lying is not necessary, DHV is not about WHAT you say in the story, you don't need a good story to be SEDUCTIVE, you just need to flirt kind of "talk the talk walk the walk" type of thing
Wait, why're you BS-ing my post? I'm passing no judgement, it's idiotic to call it BS.
All I'm saying is, the OP would know better than anyone.
Because your post suggest that in order to date/seduce/get laid you need to lie
if that's not what u meant I'm sorry
If it is then it's still BS

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no lying is not necessary, DHV is not about WHAT you say in the story, you don't need a good story to be SEDUCTIVE, you just need to flirt kind of "talk the talk walk the walk" type of thing
Wait, why're you BS-ing my post? I'm passing no judgement, it's idiotic to call it BS.
All I'm saying is, the OP would know better than anyone.
Because your post suggest that in order to date/seduce/get laid you need to lie
if that's not what u meant I'm sorry
If it is then it's still BS
I don't intend to suggest anything else other than the fact that these questions are personal to the extent that one should answer them for themselves, based on whether they can handle the consequences or not. That's it :)

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Wait, why're you BS-ing my post? I'm passing no judgement, it's idiotic to call it BS.
All I'm saying is, the OP would know better than anyone.
Because your post suggest that in order to date/seduce/get laid you need to lie
if that's not what u meant I'm sorry
If it is then it's still BS
I don't intend to suggest anything else other than the fact that these questions are personal to the extent that one should answer them for themselves, based on whether they can handle the consequences or not. That's it :)
but they don't fall to the same category as the question "do I need to lie to be good with women"

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Because your post suggest that in order to date/seduce/get laid you need to lie
if that's not what u meant I'm sorry
If it is then it's still BS
I don't intend to suggest anything else other than the fact that these questions are personal to the extent that one should answer them for themselves, based on whether they can handle the consequences or not. That's it :)
but they don't fall to the same category as the question "do I need to lie to be good with women"
Does not matter. It intends to suggest we make our own choices, and it does that. I will not be quote-replying after this.

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You should never have to lie when you're seducing a woman.

Lying actually makes it harder unless you're a fucking sociopath.

Here's a secret a lot of the commercial pickup gurus won't tell you: Honesty is probably the most powerful seduction tool you can use.

A man who isn't afraid to let the truth DLV him is a man of high value.


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Well you need to lie in the beggining, since we dont have greats dhvs stories lie lie after some months you wont need it


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Lying actually makes it harder unless you're a fucking sociopath.
This. Not just with women, with anyone, yourself above all.

Honesty man, it's powerful.


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Well you need to lie in the beggining, since we dont have greats dhvs stories lie lie after some months you wont need it
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