I have made this thread for a couple reasons
-Keep track of my progress and notice how I change
-Not revert back to old habits and stay motivated

At the age of 20 and still virgin I am finally admitting I am an AFC..

Some history on me..
6 years ago I had my first gf but I broke up with her after a month 1/2 before we ever f**. Since then I have been in no real relationship and only had the opportunity to lose my v-card a 2 or 3 times but i was too fukn dumb to realise it.

My progress in PU has been terrible and i relate this mostly to the amount of time i spend playing games which i feel has made me easier to cope with being alone. I am sick of being the person i am and want to change.

The past 2yrs that ive been going to town i have sucked at PU and on the rare occasion I have gotten hookups and hj's but i continued reverting back into old habits and shutting myself off from the outside world staying inside for several days straight.

A year from now I plan to travel europe and want to be completely ready for it.
So its time to stop fucking about and start living life to its fullest.

I hope this will help any guys who are AFC or the people who are AFC but won't admit it

Btw credit goes to Chopper Sixx for motivating me to do this.

Though I have been with many girls in my life, i consider myself a rAFC, as I am not working towards recovering what i never had in the past ... i have been for many years to afraid for AA, and bla bla bla ....

I am 32, you are 20, so you have a clear advantage ... move forward .... read and befriend people that are outgoing ... even though at the begining may be weird you can do it ... change your fashion style to something you like .... check on magazines to get a feeling on it ...

As I said, im on recovery, i have strike many mamny girls (i actually live now in thailand and is easy to get laid here) but also i have let MANY girls to go by without doing anything .... get back your power and your life!

keep working!

Well went clubbing on sat and it turned out to be a fail

I went with my friend who is the biggest afc and we went out to a smaller club first. My confidence wasnt at a high like it sometimes is so trying to get over AA proved difficult. I think my friend definitely affected me because whether I tried opening a guy/girl at the bar or whoever it was just to get the night.. he would always make a comment like "You do realise thats a guy" Or "Man shes like 300lb wtf are u doing".

Only set that I had a chance was these 3 girls, 2 girls at first then the 3rd joined as she left the bathroom. (This was a bigger club we went to later after the first one). My friend must have opened them as we left the bathroom cos I think he was talking to them unless he was just standing next to them I dont know.

When there was 2 girls
I started teasing them saying if they always hang outside the bathroom to pickup guys. We talked for like a min then one of them said its my friends birthday so i got close and said "what do you want a birthday kiss?" This made her stutter i think she was about to say yes then said no.

My friend began apologizing to them for me saying im drunk or something i can't remember but I tried to ignore it. His comments were mostly negative towards me. Then their friend joined us when she left the bathroom and turned out she was the hottest so I started talking to her but her 2friends who were talking to my friend must have lost interest and wanted to hit the dancefloor. Before she went with them I said to her alright i'll let you go but if you see me later and can't remember my name you have to buy me a drink. And I will do the same.

We walked to a different area of the club an like 2min later my friend kept saying to me we had to back to them and I said no cause that would just look stupid. We ended going back up there after about 20min in which they were gone .. which didn't bother me because I could tell we fucked up at the start somehow else they would have kept talking to us.

Hey Krating thanks for the advice. The best point I took out of your post is hanging out with outgoing people. I already have a pretty good fashion sense, I've been going to the gym for 1yr so I am not self-conscious there either. Almost all of my friends are AFC's and the ones that are not are either in relationships or don't go to town much because they are able to pickup girls they have known socially. I'm trying to work on sexual vibes, and sexual tension more but with all the different methods of PU it gets confusing.

For example girls that know they are hot i.e. bitch shielders, can you be direct? Say you look fucking hot tonight and start blaming them for being so hot.. I can't carry a normal convo with you and keep my hands off you at the same time etc... (Shock and Awe). I am trying to take negging out of my game because I think its a waste of time but it does work well on the hot ones getting them interested but one wrong step and my chances go down the toilet.

Any tips?

P.S your post helped me today for a moment I felt like reverting back into old habits[/i]

I'd also like to point out where I live, the city has about 1.2m people which I guess could be considered small. Also girls are considered more uptight here compared to the rest of the world so if I can become a PUA here Europe will be easy.

You think youve got it tough? I live in a city where girls you ask the time from remember you a week later. Everybody at my age knows each other, so when i fuck up shit gets fucked up.
Understand what you got and work it to your best ability.
Grats on making a start

What's up with your friend? "His comments were mostly negative towards me" You need to have a word with him. What sort of friend DLV's you? Sounds to me like he's jealous that you have the balls to approach and he doesn't. I've had 'friends' like that in the past - you do all the work of approaching/chatting etc and they swoop in and ruin it.

If he doesn't change, if I were you I'd find a new wing or go solo.

Good read though, keep it up.

Agreed. Once I was out with a buddy of mine and I made a CF comment to a girl that I was gaming and he belted out "You can slap him if you want." Just a DLV for both of us. Some guys are so pussy that they will just try to make themselves look better by putting their friends down. You can play softball with him or catch a movie but don't take him to the club.

BTW...Dont sweat the V Card. As long as you are doing something about it now you will be fine. I have a buddy that didn't lose his virginity until he was 24 and now he is married to a solid 10 and he fucked plenty of 8s and 9s on the way to matrimony.

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Hey AFCDave, thanks for the comments ... unfortunately i wrote a longer answer to this, but my connection in this KL, malaysia hotel went down so i lost it ...

I was telling you that you I prefer not to use praising on hot girls, they get a lot of that and they have enough so i prefer to stick to negging or your stay neutrals.

Over-negging can be enticing for newbies as I am. Since we have suffered so much, we want to give the girls some of that sh@t back, however in the end ... you dont get anything ...

I went to the Jhonnie Walker Black Lounge F1 Party last saturday here in Kuala Lumpur, i flew from Bangkok (where i live) to do that and my visa renewal. I started the night overconfident, and negged a hella out of the girls, many of them not already to confident. I negged this HB9 from Singapore even harder because somebody introduced her to me as "the hottests girl from Singapore" and in my own World i thought, ok, lets see how hot she is when i neg her over and over ..... on top of that i started drinking and drank too much. So .... end of the night ......... ALONE.

Lesson learnt stick to a position that gives you advantage, remember the classics (MMethod, etc) you start from a lower position when somebody meets you (specially hot babes) and you need to climb on top of her ... the way im learning to do that is controlling your frame, and seem confident, alpha, whatever you want to call it. Neg her from time to time, but not to the point that she things you dislike her ... However praising .... i would be very very very careful, and would only do it when I am in betweent Attraction-Comfort rather than during the plain attraction phase ...

I almost wrote here another field report i closed yesterday with a kiss, but the post is gone so will post it on a separate thread.

I am going now to the embassy of Thailand to see if i catch up with that korean girl i met the other day hehehe ....

... keep gaming!

Well I was planning to go town tonight (friday) but its freezing and raining and town isn't that great on a friday and is worse in bad weather. One of my friends is in town but getting to where he is would be difficult and hard to find so I decided not to go. Even though I have my cousins birthday tomorrow I hope I will be able to still go out later and pickup.

Things that have happened during the week.
-Had a conversation with a milf that comes into my work. There wasn't any flirting because it felt awkward with her approx. 14yr old daughter standing with her and my uniform is kinda gay. I wish i did flirt now because I had a chance to from something she said but if she doesn't like it then im fucked and its awkward lol.

-3 hot foreign girls in one of my uni subjects I want to speak to but I am in a weird position. I spoke to them for a couple min about 4weeks ago so I am not sure if they remember me or not and the only way to start the convo would be to randomly sit next to them in a lecture even though I always sit with my friends. The only opener I can think of is "hope its alright if i sit here my friends talk to much and I got to pay attention this time" But im not ballsy enough to do it -_-

-Girl I have known for a while (face-5.5,body 6.5, tits8) messaged me tonight saying "whats going on?"
Me: Hey im at a stripclub for my friends birthday drunk and horny
Her: Hope ur having fun il speak to you when your sober
Me: that will be Hard im usually drunk
Her: thats too bad lol

I was actually at home but this girl I haven't seen in AGES like over a year but i have kissed her and speak to her sometimes on fb so i feel its turned a bit into friend zone so i didn't really give a fuck what i wrote just wanted to try make her feel horny.

Hey AFC ... i think in the last one you went over 2 basic steps of the game ... the attraction and comfort, which may be lost after 1 year ... you tried to do what Mystery described as the "fool's mate" .... trying to start from the end "seduction" telling her you are horny etc ....

I have tried this in the past, and i do this sometimes now ... and very rarely works, unless you have a lot of rapport with the girl, and you are already into a some sort of relationship ... if you only kissed her .... and was so long ago ... my advice would be to try to create a bit more of attraction and comfort with her ... then you can start the sex subjects ... horny, etc ....

... keep gaming!

Yeah that makes sense thanks Krating!

Okay so I ended up going out on Saturday and even though i didn't pickup or get any numbers (kept forgetting) I had a great night and a lot of shit happened so this is a big post you don't have to read it all I split up different events into different paragraphs.

Got into town about 11pm to meet one of my friends but there was a massive lineup at club. I tried persuading the girl out the front to let me in without having to lineup but didn't work. I am going to continue to try this because I think its possible to get to know them quickly enough and let you in straight away. So I went to another club where one of my friends was at (One from last week lets call him LB). Btw by this point id had about 6drinks so I was tipsy.

Soon as i got in ran into LB and he was with a hb7 but he saw her only as a friend because apparently she liked his friend. I talked to her for a bit but didn't bother getting involved. Over the next hour or so I talked to a few other randoms short convos nothing flirtatious I was just in a very social mood. I started chatting up the bartender flirting with her. Should have number closed. At one point I asked her what time she was finishing and I realised afterwards I could have got her number saying something like this

Me: so what time are u on till?
HB7 bartender: i finish at 4
Me: so if i texted u then would u want to come out for a drink?
HB7 bartender: Yes/No
Me: Ok cool keep your phone on you/Well give me your number anyway I'll see what your doing

When my other friend GM met me where I was we went to another club and i left LB. He knew a couple girls there. As we were walking there i saw a car behind me looking for a park and opened the girl driving. Turns out my friend knew them somehow lol.. Only the driver was hot (HB7). We ejected from them and went to the club So we went and it was the worst club ive ever been to. Don't get me wrong it was really busy and the girls were fuckin hot but ratio was about 4:1 guys to girls and almost every single girl was with at least one guy... some had 4 guys hitting on one girl at the same time.

And the girls we met up with.. turns out i already knew one of them that i went to school with and i wasn't attracted to her at all probably a (HB6). Now the other girl i had never met and at the start of the night she was hot HB7 but as the night went on she seemed to get fatter and uglier until the end she was a HB2. This girl I could tell was a bit of a slut but I wasn't interested.

The four of us Me, GM, HB2, and other girl walked to a fastfood place and we ordered food. My AA was pretty low and by this point i was very drunk and didn't give a fuck. I saw a group of girls walking past outside so i followed them and they stopped outside a club i started talking to them. It was one of the girls bucks nite and she was the biggest bitch and once I realised this I cut her off and started talking to her cousin HB8 (probably 28yrs old). Should have number closed but went back to friends.

We ejected from the girls and were about to catch a taxi when one of the foreign girls from my uni course walked past (HB8). So I was like fuck it we are following her. I almost didn't go up to them took me about a minute then I walked past and bumped into one of them and started talking. For some reason she thought i was from a restaurant where she worked don't know why and still doesn't know I am in her course. Couple minutes later her friend finished on the phone said something about not being loyal to her bf then pulled her away. I had introduced me and my friend and had a short conversation so I was happy.

I've realised whenever I am social before town I don't have many problems approaching but alcohol also helps. Next week I need to get the numbers.

Hey guys,

thought of sharing with you, VH1 Pick-up Artist Season 2 winner, Simeon Moses will be in town for a week's holiday.

Brief Intro on Simeon: VH1 pickup artist is a reality TV show where mystery hand trained 8 afcs, eliminating 1 each week for 8 weeks. And the winner who pretty much can pickup a hB10 girl and full close within a day, will be recognized as Master Pick artist and gets to travel around the world with mystery, training students in the venusian arts. In other words, He's been personally trained by Mystery and is the real deal.

(Well, the show's not available here, but u can search for torrents and download the whole series. the show 2 years ago.)

Anyway, I've talk to him... seems like a pretty nice guy. Managed to convince him to come over to teach in Singapore while on a holiday. Since it's gonna be his first time here in Asia...

And he's like doing me a fav, he's gonna drop his price for his 3 day boot camp and in-field training way below the market price. But of course, subjective on how many of us r gonna take him up...

So far, I'm the first who's reserved my seat.

I would just want to open this opportunity to fellow Singaporean bros, so we can conquer the scene here with our solid fame. let me know if u're interested...

This guy is the real deal.

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Lionel

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+65 90571511

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