Hello,

So I had my first real approach yesterday.. It wasn't really a planned sarge-night. We just went out, we saw a HB8 and 2 of my friends told me to 'go for it', giving me some tips along the way.

So this HB8 was getting ALOT of attention from all the other AFC's in the room. Not that odd when she was like the only hot girl in the room (small bar). The others were like 5's or lower. I noticed she was begging for the attention, and loving it.

I've been reading a bit on these forums, and the first thing that hit me was that I shouldn't give too much attention to girls who are begging for it. So I introduced myself, and we had talked a bit. She then put her legs on mine (we were sitting), and I turned myself away and pushed her legs off of mine. She looked a bit confused and then went on seeking attention from other guys. - Guess it wasn't the right time for a freeze, or it just failed?


After a while my friends and I were having a beer and she came sitting close to us, but still talking with her own friends / some other AFC's. Then out of the blue, some other guy - who's been hitting on her for the whole night, without any succes - gives her a drink and she says thanks, turns to me and offers me her drink while saying 'here go ahead, try it!' I took a few sips, and gave it back saying I didn't like it (I really didn't). Then she went on asking what I do for a living, I answer proudly that I'm working in the sports buisness and she went on like 'ooo a sportsman.. I don't like sportsmen' and walked away to sit down at a table all by herself.

So I followed her and asked what she was doing for a living. We went back and forth a bit till she asked what I did in the sports-buisness. I said I was a fysiotherapist (while I'm actually a Fitness Instructor) and she went crazy 'ooo then you can give me a massage' and offered me her back. Like a newb that I am, I complied and gave her a small massage lasting about 20 sec. Then I told her 'That's just the beginning'.

And then I think I made my biggest mistake that night. I turned and walked away, leaving her there sitting alone. She didn't came after me, just like when she didn't put her legs back onto mine.

When the bar was closing, I grabbed my jacket and walked up to her to say goodbye and gave her a hug. And that was it.


Well, for it being the first approach it went really well I think. Wasn't excpecting a kiss or number close at all. Just talk and see where it goes. Though thinking of it this morning, I think I could have kiss closed her with the massage. If only I took her hand, spin her around so she would face me and went for it.

What do you think?

NAB

you had to beg her for that massage

I had to beg her? how? I thought I was playing it cool for the most part.

I know I shouldn't have gave her the massage right away (she has to earn it first, right?), it was one of many mistakes. But I can't see how I begged to give her anything. I was trying to make her beg for my attention (which she did... I think)


Got to give me some credit for my first approach though

Congrats on your first approach. I probably wouldn't have told her what I did for a living, I think that was your "first" mistake. I'd have taken the piss a little "I'm a professional coffee table" (in reference to her putting her legs on you.) Second mistake was following her - she knew then she had gotten your attention enough and was ready to take advantage of you. This ended with the massage which she asked for - purely for her own control-craving satisfaction.

Hey man, good job straight up though I think pushing her legs off you and turning away might have been a little too strong to start off with... Maybe if you neged her about it instead like the coffee table joke desert mentioned.

I think you might have had the wrong idea that just because she is hanging for the attention that you have to be totally indifferent. It sounded like you were the most interesting guy in the room from her point of view.

You don't have to act like your not interested at all in her man, you just have to act different from every other guy trying to pick her up. So you started out ok but I think your right with your biggest mistake being walking away at the end. When you said goodbye you could have tried to number close also.

Good job for a first go.

Thank you

Why would you not tell her what you do for a living, it's just making a conversation and getting to know each other? Or you mean you take a piss at her first, and then when she asks again you will tell her?


My friends pushed me to follow her (neither of them are PUA's or famillar with it), but that ain't an excuse. Next time, I should leave her there and if she wants my company, she has to come to me? Or maybe even avoid her trying to make me follow, and isolate her before she can leave?

NAB

Thanks.

I thought I was supposed to ignore her a little bit, because she was trying to get the attention from EVERYONE and they all gave it to her. So by not giving her (too much) attention, i was acting different from the other guys. And thus more interesting?

Maybe you're right about the pushing away being too strong. I guess that's why she didn't try and put her legs back on mine and wondered off?

NAB

Ahhhhh so she was begging for attention off everyone... Yeah cat string theory for sure man. You gotta dangle and then pull it away, so that means you gotta show her some interest then disinterest and alternate instead of just disinterest and in this case I would almost never do anything the girl asked me to do, so no massage. I would have made her give me a massage =)

Creamy

Also let me ask you, did you play any games like esp or five lies? This will get her used to doing what you tell her to do.

when a girl puts their legs on me, or get touchy touchy, i start kino it and sexually esclating for a k-close. then intensifying it to put in the idea of wanting an f-close.

usually successful, but they try to back off sometimes (not that they don't like u or anything but rather; they we're shocked by what i am doing). then what i do later is a little teasing.

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I didn't play any games, no. I should try that the next time though, makes me more interesting aswell instead of being ANOTHER guy asking 'what's you name' 'what do you do for a living?' 'what's your favorite colour?' etc.


@ OpenMinded: I think that is a little advanced for me yet. I was happy just being able to have a normal conversation with the girl. I know kino is important, but I still have to work on it being comfortable doing it.

I suggest to read books about zen massage or shiatsu, 'cause they really help with a girl. When I was 17 my uncle taught me a lot about massage and they are really powerful to create a deep connection with a HB, ultimately add mystic and after a few minutes say:"The second part is reserved for our next meeting"

Byeee