The flaws of MM (and how naturals do it better)



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:49 pm 
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I think its an unnecessary debate at the end of the day guys. In my opinion:

I guy who is master at Mystery Method - will get laid alot.
I guy who is master at natural game - will get laid alot.

Isnt that everyones goal? Research both methods, and respect them! Its what this forum is all about.


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Here is the thing, MM is not congruent with any guy.

A man, at his core, is sexual, dominant, and confident enough to go for what he wants. The problem is, this core of the man is covered up by years upon years of social conditioning. The man gets conditioned to be a wimp. Because of beign a wimp, your not being congruent with your CORE self and thus the man has problems getting women.

Now we come to MM. We have done discussed what what being congruent to your core is now all we have to do is look back up to my original post to see that using MM will not make you congruent to your core.
Perhaps I misunderstand the discussion, but, in any case, YES, MM is congruent with some people, even if very few. If it wasn't congruent, how did Mystery come up with it?

I still don't get why we're bashing MM. It works with some people, not with others.

If you just wanted to prove that MM is inferior to natural game, then I'll concede the point. You win.

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I think its an unnecessary debate at the end of the day guys. In my opinion:

I guy who is master at Mystery Method - will get laid alot.
I guy who is master at natural game - will get laid alot.

Isnt that everyones goal? Research both methods, and respect them! Its what this forum is all about.
If I told you, in order to make a sandwich, you should run around the grocery store seven times while clucking like a chicken before you go inside to buy bread, would you still respect my method of sandwich-making?

And, in the end, I still won't even tell you how to put the sandwich together. Sound good?


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Perhaps I misunderstand the discussion, but, in any case, YES, MM is congruent with some people, even if very few. If it wasn't congruent, how did Mystery come up with it?

I still don't get why we're bashing MM. It works with some people, not with others.

If you just wanted to prove that MM is inferior to natural game, then I'll concede the point. You win.
Mystery doesn't even use MM anymore...

Just some food for thought
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every styll has it flaws.
i think this discussion is pretty lame.

mm is as good as any other method.
mm is indeed a little more acting. that is why it's easy to learn. ( and that's a good thing for some of us.)

but almost every effective pickupstyle is based on the same theory.
it's about displaying you are the alpha man. and because of this fact, you're the price to be won. and you're the best choise a girl could make.

mm, uses routines, dhv stories, ... to display that you're alpha
c&f, uses bodylanguage and the psychology that's behind the fact you're acting cocky and funny.
inner game, learning how to become alpha.
nlp , euh i don't know:d ( haven't studied this one yet)
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you can go on.
it's al based on the same princeples.

but i think mm is as good as inner game. (natural)

-advantage about inner game is,its something you'll require for the rest of your life. and you'll always be alpha. in mm you'll always have to juse your structures.

-advantage about mm, it's easy to learn, because it is aloth like science.
do this, this ,this and boom. it's like a puzzle.
while inner game can take years to become what you want. and shape yourself in a confedent man.

so i'm using both. because i don't want to wait for years to be confedent and sleep with a loth of hot chiks. and i'm working on inner game so one day i wont need the structure anymore. ;)


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Oooh... The arrogance...

I got so pissed off at this topic, that I couldn't help it and I decided to interfere. I'm just speechless!

To OP - What was the reason you posted this topic? What are you trying to prove?

I'm just fed up with all you Natural Game Nazis !

Trying to prove superiority/inferiority will get you nowhere.

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Oooh... The arrogance...

I got so pissed off at this topic, that I couldn't help it and I decided to interfere. I'm just speechless!

To OP - What was the reason you posted this topic? What are you trying to prove?

I'm just fed up with all you Natural Game Nazis !

Trying to prove superiority/inferiority will get you nowhere.
Lol. Your being pretty reactive but its okay, I can see your an ok dude with noble intentions.

You know what separates Fake Alpha from Real Alpha? Being Nonreactive. Fake Alphas walk around with body languge that they herd is alpha, they learned lines and routine that makes them seem alpha, they tell stories that demonstrate just how "alpha" they are. But actually on the inside their still very beta. What they have been learning is just a "band aid" to cover up their betaness. Fale alphas are always trying to appear strong. Its insecurity.

A Real Alpha is totally nonreactive. To him, other people are guest in HIS reality. He is so involved in is own reality that people cant change his internal. he is in full control of his internal state.

This thread seems to have effected your internal state a great deal. Thats what MM does to its practitioners. MM conditions you to be reactive.

Just some food for thought for ya :)

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every styll has it flaws.
i think this discussion is pretty lame.

mm is as good as any other method.
mm is indeed a little more acting. that is why it's easy to learn. ( and that's a good thing for some of us.)

but almost every effective pickupstyle is based on the same theory.
it's about displaying you are the alpha man. and because of this fact, you're the price to be won. and you're the best choise a girl could make.

mm, uses routines, dhv stories, ... to display that you're alpha
c&f, uses bodylanguage and the psychology that's behind the fact you're acting cocky and funny.
inner game, learning how to become alpha.
nlp , euh i don't know:d ( haven't studied this one yet)
...

you can go on.
it's al based on the same princeples.

but i think mm is as good as inner game. (natural)

-advantage about inner game is,its something you'll require for the rest of your life. and you'll always be alpha. in mm you'll always have to juse your structures.

-advantage about mm, it's easy to learn, because it is aloth like science.
do this, this ,this and boom. it's like a puzzle.
while inner game can take years to become what you want. and shape yourself in a confedent man.

so i'm using both. because i don't want to wait for years to be confedent and sleep with a loth of hot chiks. and i'm working on inner game so one day i wont need the structure anymore. ;)
Out of curiosity, have you read every reply in this thread? If not, you should.

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I made this account simply to reply to Warpless Mind.
You are an idiot.

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Hahah, listen Aaron4Governor.. You're also an idiot.

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Hahah, listen Aaron4Governor.. You're also an idiot.
Lmao. You made an account just to call us idiots. Thats some negative energy right there :P

To all the views of this thread, look at the replies of people on both sides. The replies of Me, Chief, Aaron, and all of the other thread supporters are generally positive and mature.

Next, take a look at all the thread "haters." Sean called me out and said threw some insults, this guy registered just to spread negative energy, and theres been a few others not important enough to remember that has thrown out some insults as well.

Now, looking at this thread an neutral persons point of view, the MM supporters seem negative, rude, and immature. While the people who agrees with my original post are generally pretty nice, positive and helpful.

Of course, there are exceptions on both sides but looking at all this, which way of thinking comes off as more beneficial?

I'll leave that question for each viewer to decide for themselves.

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Ha ha, Warped Mindless, we may disagree in this thread but at least I must credit you for not being "seriously".

:)

People, cant you tell the difference between an interesting discussion and a fight. One important point is that in a discussion you dont call others idiots. And a discussion is what we want to have...

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Chris Rex Style.

Skips over the comfort bullshit and will kiss a girl in 2 minutes.


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Ha ha, Warped Mindless, we may disagree in this thread but at least I must credit you for not being "seriously".

:)

People, cant you tell the difference between an interesting discussion and a fight. One important point is that in a discussion you dont call others idiots. And a discussion is what we want to have...
Agreed.

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Listen Warped Mindless, the reason that you're HERE on this website is because you're not a natural. You are NOT a natural. Go kill yourself you disgusting looking nerd. I hate people that can't just simply post intelligent threads about different techniques or field reports that are actually beneficial, or even a thread of a TRUE and HELPFUL post that could benefit the readers. Instead you come, and post garbage like this "NATURALS ARE BETTER THAN MM LAWLAWL I'M GAY AND ENJOY PENIS IN MY MOUTH :D!". Look kiddo, most of the people that are reading the posts on this website are RIDICULOUSLY shy, insecure, most probably ugly looking fellows who can't even make friends with people whom sit next to them in class. The rest are average guys, that just haven't been successful with women because they've been following the garbage and mindless trash propagated by the mainstream media. So instead of spewing absolutely futile information with the spelling of a 3 year old, go kill yourself. You're obviously useless in real life, and probably have a small penis. P.S. I LOVE YOUR OTHER POST ABOUT "WHICH GURU DOES YOUR GAME RESSEMBLE LAWLAWLAWL". You disgust me.

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