If the bf is a dick, I would use a bf destroyer on her because he's not worth being around her. You seem like you actually like her, whereas he does not and he does not appreciate her.

Leave her better than when you found her.

Talk about the relationship casually and plant seeds. In other words...


you- so what are you and the boytoy up to tonite?
her- oh he's out with his friends again
you-
a) thats a shame. i take care of my women and make sure they're never bored...
OR
b) really? he just left you to hang out with his friends while you're alone at home?
OR
c) a beautiful woman should never be left alone. you just never know when a romantic (pause) honest (pause) sensual man is going to show up and sweep her off her feet.

Brawndo - they broke up her and her bf.

we agreed to go out tom night but then she invites her friend to come out with us - she says its for one but i doubt it.

Im gonna take chelios advice and just act normal. but it is difficult when things are more susceptible to happen when its just the two of you.

As Johny says she has broken up with her bfriend, however even if she hadnt, dont ever mention the bfriend Brawndo! Youre just going to send her mind into a spin thinking about him. Dont go there, rather show her a good time and she will make up her mind on her own.

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Johnny, you are in great position. You get to win her friend over which is extremely important, and secondly you get to get your girl wondering if its actually her that youre still interested in!

Now i dont mean go and purposely make her jealous, thats just not nice and isnt necessary. But if you are entertaining both of them and giving her friend a lot of attention too, you may start finding that your girl starts becoming a little more forward with you to make clear that you are hers. What more could you ask for. Deliberate IOI's as a result of slight jealousy because of your pure awesomeness.

A girl i have met with twice asked me to come with her to some club about 2 weeks ago, said she would pick me up and drop me off. I had work the next day but she promised to get me home by 1am. We hadnt seen other in a month as she was away on holiday, i said cool how could i refuse an offer like that with my own personal chauffeur! (and a fucking gorgeous one too!).

Arrived at the club and it was her 2 girlfriends and another close guy friend of hers (who likes her, i didnt know this tho). I entertained the lot of them, eventually my girl (who is very conservative/passive) was making gestures and dragging me away from her other friend as she just felt her girl friend was liking my presence a bit TOO much (she didnt say this, but i knew it).

Its only more power to you mate, enjoy it!

Visionxxxxxxxxxxxxx


thanks for that advice.

I guess it just annoys me that we agreed that we would go out then she decides to bring a friend. I have met her a couple of times before so not like she will be running the rule over me. So not sure why she would bring her, apart from her reasoning, but my reasoning which is she wants to make it clear that we are "friends" and not to get any ideas... (I may be paranoid at the moment)

I cant really isolate her as it is just us three. So I may bring a mate of mine also but we will see. Her friend has a bf so doubt I would make her jealous by givin her friend attention. So in regards to your example I wish there was more than three of us cos that would mean I could do what you did.

Thanks tho anyways - good advice.

One question I promise - if her friend asks me whether i like this girl - what do i say? admit it? she kinda knows im sure anyways but still

I only read the first few comments, didn't look all the way through to where she broke up with him.

Ok so basically I know this is gettin boring for you guys but just want advice on one thing.

Basically since I came back from holiday, she has barely smiled, laughed, sat or even been happy when seeing me. She is kinda pushing me away but ive not been the best person to be with at the moment anyways - i have had an issue or two to deal with. The week before i went away, tho, we spoke on the phone alot, as she had her own issues, and now she is pushing me away.

She is close to this other guy (not her bf) and yeah I am jealous and although she has been close with this other guy she has always treated me in the same way she treated him - until now. Its obvious she doesnt like me and cant stand me now. I just simply dont know what changed in a week. I will let her go and im ready to let her go

BUT

I am, and have been, thinking that im just gonna tell her that I like her and ask her - more importantly WHAT changed between us in a week. Not in a needy way. I know its not gonna change a damn thing but what it will do is release all this pent up frustration. would this be right?

I am more curious than anything else. I wont want an answer from her at all. I guess its more being honest with myself.

What I also want is to take lessons from this experience and use it to my advantage - thats another reason why I need to know.

In summary

Should I tell her how I feel?
Should I ask her what went wrong with her in the past week?
Should I just leave her and not say anything and move on?

The part I have bold, would be the line I'd take, other ways make you seem as if you depended on her a bit, coming back to you etc. Where as if you get on with life, and think fuck her, she will come crawling back, you'll enter her mind from the good times, but if you start asking deep questions, she'll think" I got him".

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Chelios - a bit late mate haha

I spoke to her on the phone. I told her i didnt wanna do it by phone but hey if thats how im gonna talk to her so be it.

She got angry at me when i told her things had changed. I told her how we arent talking etc and how im partly to blame for dismissing her etc but she seems to think that ive done it all by not talking to her and being rude to her. What she doesnt know (and didnt tell her) is why i was rude i.e. cos she is seeing this other guy and she doesnt know that I know.

I told her that we will not talk from now on. the thing is mate, i had to say that because we work together but i told her that im gonna go and will let her go. She didnt say anything after that and i put the phone down.

She doesnt really talk much but when she does it all comes out. She wil most prob ask me tomorrow if i was being serious and maybe the realisation will set it.

I am takin your advice tho as in I have taken the first step to cuttin off contact and now i will not actually talk to her and she knows it.

By the way I never told her how i felt for her, never asked her any questions at all and never told her that i know about the guy she just fucking met. So im kinda doin this cos i feel like it rather than something forcing me to do it.

Truth is mate, she seems inconsiderate, and she don't care much, look at how she's acting, you know info about her, that she doesn't know of.

Look to the future and start gaming again enjoying life, fuck her, watch her crawl back and you laugh. Think of yourself.

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I would say nt to go sarging at work, it could make hings copicated... but if you're dead set (I know it's old guys) I woul try item anchoring:

(Ya still use it) anchor it with a thought that makes her happy and tell her to remember that feeling everytime she see's it, make it something functional that she will lok at several times a day; like a shiney watch or something($20-30 max, you don't want to display too much intrest at this point) be prepared for a hit test or 2 after that though...

thats the easiet method I know (and I still stand behind it 100% lol)

-Lush

Unfortunately this situation didnt happen through me sarging. It happened cos i took a liking to her through interacting at work etc.

Thats the unfortunate thing about it - so I wasnt really ready and I was caught unawares as it were.

Chelios - she seems inconsiderate. But what does she owe me? she doesnt owe telling me... Im not with her... not in a relationship with her...

But yeah I know where you are coming from but she seems to think I dont want to talk to her etc and thats why she is appearing to be inconsiderate.

I actually feel like I have lost a friend thats the thing.

She should give you mutual respect, seems you have it for her, but she hasn't, so again, fuck her, of course, you will be unhappy because you feel you have lost a friend, but again, your the priority here and if she's not worrying about you, you shouldn't worry about her!

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Chelios - exactly agree with you and thats how I felt and feel. it was one way - she never agreed as she always said she was talking to me. Even now she has gone downstairs to see him and it fucking kills knowing that she is downstairs with him hugging and playing etc. Its akin to someone sleeping with your wife NEXT DOOR rather than across the country. Its more difficult to deal with when its in front of you.

Thats why I have actually let go and decided to ignore her.

You know seriously tho this forum has helped me out alot as in venting my anger and frustrations as im not one to talk about my feelings and thoughts - even to my closest mates in the real world - so thanks. I know I have gone round in circles etc but it is a difficult situation to deal with.

We've all been there mate, and will al be ther in some essence again, so keep your head up, things will get better.

My suggestion again, concentrate on yourself, go out, have some fun, and definitely game to remove this person from your mind completely, it takes time.

I'm not a jealous person, but I'm a believer of nothing lasts forever, it helps me through hard times. So when her fun and nice playful relationship crumbles with this dude, you'll have the last laugh in repsects of knowing what she missed out on with you.

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I just read the whole thread and it was very interesting and offered many insights! Good job both Johnny and the repliers. Ty.

Johnny, unfortunately, it's not uncommon for girls to just turn around like that, without any kind of warning nor explanation, and then for them to be mad at you. It's so hard to resist the AFC feelings and actions when that happens. Sometimes, I think that an AFC course of actions can actually be preferable, namely the times that you've given up and you just wanna make a stand and/or let her know that this kind of behavior is not OK.

I had a similar situation which led me to write this AFC-dripping post: here-vp382469.html .

When it comes to girls at work, I've been doing pretty much what you've been doing - not really sarging, but neither resisting it when the vibe has found its way into an interaction. However, in your situation, I think you have extra incentives to break the frustration and get back on terms with her as friends. The kind of frustration that is between you has a poisonous effect not only on your job situation, but on your workmates' as well. That's why sarging at work is so bad, and following the vibe is so risky.

My own situation at work is different. I'm gonna quit in 5 weeks, so I've told my closest work mates that I'm gonna be dangerous those last weeks. I've already slept with one, been on a date with one (LJBFed, fuck it!) and took another one's number yesterday here-vp382487.html#382487 . Work is perfect for sarging, if you only don't have to think of the consequences. =D

Edit: Oh, yeah, I just remebered this other girl at work, who I met out one night and ended up going to an after party at her place and doing pretty well. The only thing that stopped me, I feel, was the presence of another work mate, but I got her number and just figured I'd send her a text about going out tonight. Work is good..

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