chief, I appreciate the advise. I've never really looked into direct game. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll be reading all about it this afternoon.

some of you are misunderstanding me. I felt guilt because the girl was telling me in person and messaging me that I was the perfect guy. I feel guilt for making her like me when I only wanted sex. I don't feel guilty for porking her at all.

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she got into my bed and the first thing she said was that she wasnt going to have sex with me. I told her I was just happy to have the most beautiful girl I've ever been with looking down at me. 20 minutes later she said, I really want to have sex with you but I can't because its the first date. To that I said "who even said I have sex on the first date?" 20 minutes later when she said she thought she wanted to have sex that night. i said "if we have sex tonight, how will I know tomorrow whether your just interested in me for the sex or if you like me for me?" 5 minutes later she told me to "put a fucking condom on" 5 minutes later after teasing her, touching everything around her vagina except her vagina, i railed the shit out of her. thanks for the lecture but I think I have that aspect under control. and believe me, I know I'm worthy.

haha gratz... i swear that story is dejavu from a yr ago with me... almost exact same word for word, but i was a lil more brutal with negging her xD

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no matter what, no matter when, no matter who... any man has a chance to sweep any woman off her feet; he just needs the right broom. - Hitch

This has been a very interesting read. I use certiain aspects of MM in my game but one trait that I always try to practice, not just in pickup but in life in general, is honesty. If you are honest with people about your intentions the you will not lose any sleep. I have been beating the idea into my head lately that before I sleep with a woman it is my job to tell her exactly where things stand between us. Usually that we are just two good looking people having a good time. If you say that or something to that effect and she does not sleep with you oh well. If she does sleep with you and she gets upset then you know that you did everything that you could to let her know where she stood. This has happened to me once before years ago and I came to the conclusion that sometimes people need to be responsible for their own feelings.

Claiming that using MM, or David D., or SS or whatever to unleash your own natural attractive qualities is wrong is tantamount to saying that every woman who hurts a man's feelings simply by not responding to him romantically is an evil bitch. We naturally want to appear attractive to the opposite sex because we are hard wired to reproduce. It is not wrong to be attractive unless you are doing it specifically to hurt women. If you got into PU for that reason then walk yourself into a therapist's office, or better yet, into oncoming traffic.