Hmm... i think this is more of a philosophical question.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:13 am 
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So bassically i`ve been PUAing for about 2 months. Knew about the game for a bit.
But its been like 2 months since it started monopolizing my thoughts. I`ve been studying like shit the whole attraction factor etc...
I`ve been going on making at least 2 approaches per day in the past 2 weeks. Rearely making # closes, just wanted to practice opening and getting over the anxiety stage. Got 2 k-closes and 1 f-close in the last 2 months i think.
I`ve always been a social bastard. So making conversation was never hard for me.
I`m reaching this point in my game where i`m trying to resolve how gaming is affected about HOW you say things and not WHAT you say. Like your confidence etc... About how your state controls your interaction. (massive contradictions that happen to me on how online/txt gaming actually works) BUT what you say actually matters because it determines the responses you get and the responses you get controls your state. You gotta admit your confidence will go down along the road when you`re getting negative feedback from what you say.


Its crazy but for some reason, I know that you can not get some of the women attracted to you, butttttt I have the tendancies to believe that you can actually improve in such a way that one day you can pick your 10 in your list to make your life mate or w.e.

So heres the question: What is gaming really for?
What is the ultimate goal?
If you learned about the game how can you actually go back?

Right now in my head... you can`t lmao

You know there are rules in seduction, so either you max out the shit in your skills until you become awfully good or stay at your shitty level and expect life events to bring you your "soulmate".

Now this leads me to another question: Are there really rules in the game or is it really just beliefs we created, and we just get better at interaction with women by constantly exposing ourselves to them? now gaming just seems like commercially brought up way to make money. Take a look at the bootcamps, shit is ridiculously over-priced only for a day of teaching.
Why do some people have it so well with women even though they never even heard of the game?


Idk i`m just lost in this shit right now and being a confused mudda fucka. guess i`m looking for a way to get pushed in getting good at this shit cause i`ve always had a thing at getting successful at everything. Just the path you have to take aint clear at all.

Its like one thing everything is so clear in my head... then i just loose it lol

anybody went through this before?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:36 pm 
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anybody went through this before?
Most people have
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BUT what you say actually matters because it determines the responses you get and the responses you get controls your state. You gotta admit your confidence will go down along the road when you`re getting negative feedback from what you say.
only if your state and value of yourself is based on the responses you get from other people.

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Its crazy but for some reason, I know that you can not get some of the women attracted to you, butttttt I have the tendancies to believe that you can actually improve in such a way that one day you can pick your 10 in your list to make your life mate or w.e.
one day...no, now
the one day everything will be ok thinking is just self destructive, you can approach your 10s/'soul mates' (theres certainly more than one) now.
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So heres the question: What is gaming really for?
What is the ultimate goal?
If you learned about the game how can you actually go back?
each person in this will have different goals,
to fuck as many women as possible
to gain validation from success from women
to gain validation from talking about success with women
to find a suitable person for a relationship

goals vary from person to person, its really up to you to find out what you want out of all this.
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You know there are rules in seduction, so either you max out the shit in your skills until you become awfully good or stay at your shitty level and expect life events to bring you your "soulmate".
thats not just seduction...thats life, you can either improve your skills and become successful or expect life's events to hand you something.
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Now this leads me to another question: Are there really rules in the game or is it really just beliefs we created, and we just get better at interaction with women by constantly exposing ourselves to them? now gaming just seems like commercially brought up way to make money. Take a look at the bootcamps, shit is ridiculously over-priced only for a day of teaching.
Why do some people have it so well with women even though they never even heard of the game?
the 'rules' come from people trying things and determining, what works, what doesn't, applying the basic theories coupled with skill gained through experience is how you improve.

no dbout it is veeery commercial, its a business, the aim for a lot of these methods is to make money, no matter what angle you come at it from, how you sugar coat it and present it, most of the key principles are the same. And just because this is about seduction doesn't mean you just accept everything you hear, some stuff is bullshit but like anything else in life you just apply your common sense.

people who are naturally successful have the same traits that people who are using something like MM are trying to convey, how they gained those traits...thats anyones guess, perhaps they found the charizard in a pack of Pokemon and gained dominance and confidence through dominating all the poke battles....
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Idk i`m just lost in this shit right now and being a confused mudda fucka. guess i`m looking for a way to get pushed in getting good at this shit cause i`ve always had a thing at getting successful at everything. Just the path you have to take aint clear at all.
some of the shit is incredibly convoluted and confusing and tbh theres no need for it to be, i don't like directing you towards another method...but...sixty years of challenge and gunwitch method, they cut the crap, give you the key points without a lot of the bullshit thats in other methods.


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