The 3 possibly 4 methods to reduce flakes



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:21 am 
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I've been into "game" pretty hardcore for 2.5 years. I've had a lot of success but I really want to concentrate on the flake issue here. I've got a lot of experience to draw on now but unfortunately most of it is 'what not to do' rather than 'what to do'

The biggest problem in most people's game is the flake rate of girls. For me I have everything down, if I could just get girls to more consistently meet me I would have true abundance as I know exactly what to do to take it all the way, I've proven that many times.

So I believe there are only 3 ways to solve this problem. 2 I've tried for 2 years and another I'm more resorting to than wanting to try.

so method 1 Comfort
We need more comfort. Make a good impression realize she is attracted and isolate. Don't push things too far resulting in buyers remorse do enough to avoid the friendship zone and try and make a real connection. Arrange to do something you both enjoy together on a certain day.

Method 2 Sexual
Be sexual, when she is attracted push it for all. Don't bother getting the number, go for broke and get her in bed tonight. I've had over 20 SNLs this way in the last 2 years.

Method 3 Number Game
It's a numbers game and you can't predict who will meet you again and who wont. Do the numbers, stop putting all your efforts in trying to get to know them in a difficult situation, that being a loud club when she's drunk and her orbitors and girl mates are in the way. Just try and arrange a better time to meet when you're more in control because you chose the meeting place. Approach 10 girls a night confidently and direct and ask if they want to hook up some time just the 2 of you. Do this 4 nights a week and have 40 numbers to contact knowing most will flake but a few may show up.

The problems with the first 2
Method 1 Comfort
Forgetting the platonic trapfall and friend zone for a moment. I have met loads of girls this way and some I've asked out have been kind of social circle. I've met some of the girls 5-6 times through someone I know and built up a lot of rapport etc they defiantly seemed attracted to me (and after years of doing this I know when they are). Even one or two of these girls have flaked! Now the reason I use this example is because I had a lot of comfort with these girls a lot more than I cold ever hope to get on a cold approach and if these girls are prone to flake then what hope is there in reality for the first method?

Method 2 Sexual
So this method has given me the most success. I quickly got frustrated with flakiness of girls so started pushing for all I could get that night. The problem is I found I hit their ONS / buyers remorse territory and when looking for a girlfriend this proved to be just as flaky! I would hook up with girls prone to ONS and not after anything more (STDs become an issue). The girls who I do want relationships with and who don't go home with guys on the first night also got put off thinking I was after only one thing. Although I did manage to get a few relationships off the SNL.


Conclusion leading to method 3 Numbers Game

So I've got a lot of first hand experience. My mates have been into game for 5 years plus and they have the same problems. I've never met anyone truly overcome the flakiness issue. So the only thing I can conclude is to accept that most girls will flake and compensate by asking more out. Girls would not flake if they were that into me and getting them attracted is so easy, hitting more numbers means more chance of hitting on a girl who I'm really right for. Going direct / mode one, not wasting time chatting to a girl who isn't that attracted to me whilst overcoming the music and orbitors she hangs out with when I could be hanging with my mates and enjoying the night.

This conclusion drawn from years of real experience leads me to question most pickup methods out there.

The final and perhaps 4th method Social I'm trying is the AFC Adam approach. I realized the girls that I have met again or had relationships with have always had small social circles. For example I was seeing a great French girl for a while, she had moved here to study English from a French uni and was working in the house where she lived. She didn't know many people in this country and she took the chance to get to know me. Other examples are girls who are really into their careers or no job and not studying etc. Students have such big social circles getting them to meet a stranger 1 on 1 is hard. I've even tried getting their friends to meet our friends which happens but it's not ideal. So I've noticed the girls with healthy social circles hook up within that social circle. I do events so they become part of my social circle. This is a lot of effort in it's self so I'll see how it pays off.

Happy to discuss any comments and for feedback / criticism


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:00 pm 
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Update

I've been speaking to a friend who is very good at getting the day 2. He's been into game 5 plus years. He uses method 1 comfort and gets a high meet up rate but only by saying he just wants to be friends. It's very platonic . His aim is to get the meet up and the most effective way he's found is to be in the friends zone. Once he's met them a couple of times they sometimes escalate him but sometimes it wont go anywhere. This is a much longer process than usual he can take a 6 months to get a girl in bed.


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2.5 years? jesus christ dude

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:17 am 
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The girl that flaked that originally led me to write this post, I had her last night. I met her out, she was making out with some much bigger guy and I took her home.

I now say get as much comfort as possible but understand it's a numbers game. I'm leaning towards the fact that it's more of a numbers game than anything. The better you are the less numbers you have to do


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I get to many numbers every night so I decided to sell some to tele-marketers every night to make some cash on the side.

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