have you broken up with her ? If you have not, at this point you NEED to. yeah yeah ts scuks I know you lover her...do it. Its proven, that if you break up with your significant other, she faalls that much more in love with you. DO IT.

shes bullshiting. if you do have another girl on stand by. you can use it to your advantage.
DO NOT TALK TO HER FRIEND ABOUT ANYTHING YOU, MAY FEEL FOR HER BESTFRIEND. I can't stress this enough. If its M.O.B. its definetly girls over guys. Talk to her if she is your bestfriend but if she wants to talk about the realtionship tell her to mind her fcukng buisness or just not to sweat it.

hope that helps my man. Shes at the tipping point of the relationship ! shes right there, you make it out of it the make up sex is gonna be magic.

whens the last time that you saw her ?

every girl is diff but they will try to get over it, that quote was proven incorrect though by some studies idk which im an undergrad psych student i read that study though.

the longer she is having a prob over it though doesnt mean she was more/less in love with u. has to do w/coping strategies, other men in her life, mental stability, biology, what love even meant between you and her(it varies between ppl, some ppl jackasses, lets just say theres diff levels of love and then add in diff levels of lust and then compassion and it is diff for everyone, high compassion is a bitch though to get rid of)

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Well guys, something went to hell apparently. I tried out the idea of talking to the dual friend and using jtaz's idea. She told my ex, and at first I got a good response out of it. My ex was saying stuff to me like she seriously loves me, and she don't know what's been going on with herself cuz all her feelings have been mixed, ect. But when I tried to get her back, she had to "think about it"... and of course, we all know what happens when girls think. She ended up wanting the "friends route" the next day. So I'm pretty much on my last leg with this one. Trying the John Alexander breakup note (basically saying that I'm cool with her decision, and giving lots of contradictions to keep her confused), ignore for 3 weeks idea. She's a tough cookie.

In the meantime, I'll be focusing on the other girl I'm talking to.

Any more ideas fellas?

Yoo hoo, anybody there? This would be the part where somebody replies. Thanks in advance!

*sigh*

read what I wrote. hope that helps

This is a similar situation to what I'm in. And I followed SeeCarios's advice. I broke up with her even though it was very hard. I last saw her 4 days ago. I'm very active out in the field now and constantly sarging... and adding girl friends on facebook. I really want to get back together but she needs to make a leap first. My questions..

1. Is it ok for me to be actively sarging and demonstrating on facebook or should I keep a low profile.
2. Should I respond to her messages... calls etc. I want to give her hope but I don't want her to see it as something manipulative. I mean.. my main intent is to help her make that leap with me.
3. When is it ok to reinitiate contact with an intent to get back. I'm thinking i can check temperature in a couple weeks.

Would greatly appreciate the feedback.

Sam

You know, "Forum Leader" doesn't mean "Idiot".

Jaybot gave you brilliant advice. And I am going to reinforce that.

You liked her, still like her and will always like her. Irrespective of you being with her or not, you will like her more. She's crying and whining and moaning, just because she misses the attention you gave her. Now, there's no one to give her that.

And all that talk of her statuses and messages from friends, that's all a manipulation, of putting you back into the situation you got out of. Don't go there. There's nothing left for anyone there.

Forget this girl. And take your chances with the so-called other girl that you have lined up.

Relationships fail and it's best we not visit them again. Tough but fair. In the long run.

Good luck.

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