Hey my names Dave O. I'm new to this whole pua thing lol. I'm not really here trying to become some over night mack, but to be able to talk to women comfortable, and learn how to even control some men wouldn't hurt. I want to be a leader, and ironically many of the behaviors that you have to have when picking up women, is the same behavior you have to dispense when you’re dealing with people in general.

So I didn't completely get to do the challenge as I had liked to, but I did go to a store today, and see if they were any HB's there. There were about 10 I talked to. I seemed real confident, and my back was straight up, chin up, with a tiny smirk, and a confident look in the eye. I kind did this cool glide step thing which I was proud of. One chick kinda blew me off, but I didn't sweat it. Though in a store you are much less able to pull of walking away and not seeing them again. So about at the 7th girl which was like an HB7 approaching 8, she was decent, and I actually exchanged numbers with her. So now it’s to the drawing board and stuff. I really like this exercise, but I think I deprived my self of the full experience by not going to the mall. I can't go to the mall on the weekend either because I have to go to work all weekend. So maybe down the line I’ll go to the mall, but definitely before this month is over I’m going to hit the mall and do this a couple of times. Are there any other challenges?

Today I went to the central for the test.

On the way I was kinda anxiety about it and when I parked car I got over with it. When I saw first chick I just froze. same happened with second, third and so on. After ½h of walking around and trying to get my head up I managed to say 'hi' to 1 girl and she just looked back at me, said 'hi and smiled, it was a true relief I kept doing this few times and got 1 more nice smile with 'hi' and also some weirdo faces, but I'm happy I did this. wasn't that hard after all, even I almost shitted in my pants

On Thursday evening I groomed myself, got comfortable and went to the mall. This newb mission sounded like a real piece of cake. As soon as I walked in I began saying hi to girls and women or at least smiling and making eye contact. I wasn't picky I smiled at or said hi to girls in their late teens and women older than 50. Once I had paced half of the mall it seemed pretty simple. Then I suddenly realize I was looking at a solid 9.5 and she was looking right at me, when we where about ten paces from each other I smiled and she smiled back. Now I was getting nervous, I started thinking I can't simply say "Hi" I need to open. At five paces from each other she slowed down and said, "Hello."
I didn't slow down. Instead I said, "Hello." and buzzed right passed! In mind I'm asking myself, "Seriously! WTF? She said hello! All you had to do was stop!" I paced the other half of the mall to the food court without saying a word to anyone. I had Panda Express and then began to pace back. I was smiling again but I wasn't saying, "Hi." Then I saw HB9.5 again! She was standing in front of American Apparel, again we made I contact. This time I was going to force myself to stop and I did and she said, "Hello." Again.
I said, "Hi." She was smiling, I was smiling. We were just standing there, looking at other for like 6 seconds, but it felt like forever!
Then she asked, "What's up?"
"Not much." I responded. And then her friends came out of the store and when she turned to face them I left. I left the mall and went home. I still can't understand why the hell I was so afraid. However, I felt like I had made at least some progress. I also wanted to try it again.

Friday night rolls around, I thought about going to the mall again but it was getting late. So I decided to go a place I'm more comfortable at, a club. I got groomed and dressed in some skinny jean with an ordinary brown leather belt. I was wearing a maroon button up dress shirt with extremely thin white stripes and short brown & purple old school converse shoes. I had been to clubs before but with serious AA and this was the first time I was not peacocking. In addition, this was the first time I was going to use the right angle of approach.
I got to the club and it was still a little early. I went into the lounging area and found an empty booth and sat down. After a few minutes the place started to fill up and so I headed out to the dance floor. I am a good dancer, I don't really know any special moves and tonight I realized I don't need any. There were HB7s, HB8s, and a few HB9s. I thought about approaching the HB9s but I was nervous. I turned towards the HB8s but still couldn't push myself to and then thought about the HB7s. I was getting AA. I went to sit down. After a few minutes I got up and went to the dance floor again. I stood there and watched, continuously telling myself, "Go! Go! Go!". Then I had a sudden epiphany! "Screw being picky! Any girl who is angled at an easy approach I'll go for!" I wasn't talking about simply asking for a dance, I was going to force myself to take control because that's what I've been told girls want. And then it began any girl from one o'clock to two o'clock or 10 to 11 was going to be approached. The first girl I saw I took her left into mine, slid my right hand onto the right side of her hip, pulled her in and began dancing. After a few seconds she looked at me, I smiled and we kept dancing. The entire time I led the dance, holding her hips I would control whether we went side to side, up and down, a circular motion or anything else I wanted. To control upper body I hugged her tightly and she would come in, I release and she would create breathing space. My confidence was growing from five magic beans into the bean stalk. I then spun her around so she was facing me, placed my hand around her lower back and pulled her in. After that I lowered my hand to her ass, no not all the way down. Only far enough to where I could feel she was wearing a thong. I pulled her in closer and she really began riding my leg. After a while I switched sides, pushed her away and pulled her back in. During this entire time I was also having a conversation with her. Asking her small questions like, "Do you have a boyfriend?" I was also giving her negs like, "I once met the weird brunette at a club, in a black dress who was all over me." After a song I told her I needed to go find my friend and left to move on to the next girl. As I went looking for anther girl I got rejected twice. My confidence had grown, it didn't affect me.
I approached an almost HB7, I played the same routine then left to find another girl. As I was looking for another girl, I ran into the first girl I had danced with. I didn't really want to dance with her again but she backed up into me and so I danced. I found out she was French and only in the city until the next day. She wasn't hot or anything but she seemed nice and after a while I got tired and I asked her if she wanted to rest. I got drinks, we sat in a booth and talked about this girl in front of us who was alone. I negged her by telling her she should go dance with her. I checked my phone and then French girl asked me if I had FaceBook. We exchanged, and then I helped her find her friend (some French dude).
I then got back out on the dance floor and made eye contact with HB8. I smiled, she smiled, and I went in with my routine. I then saw almost HB7, turned out they where friends. I ran my routine and went to the restroom. I went back to HB8, her friends where there, only a couple of them could pass as 8s. Then French girl found me again and we danced. I introduced HB8 to French dude and they danced. Almost HB7 was standing all alone so I made a sandwich with her and French girl. It was then I realized I had become AMOG. I took turns dancing with HB8's friends, HB8 was also AFOG. One of her friends, HB7.9 said she couldn't dance because she had a BF. I asked, "Where is he at?"
"Oh, he's not here." said HB7.9.
"Ok, so he won't know." I negged. She smiled and agreed to dance. I still had control of the entire dance. I also squeezed her hands and she squeezed back. I cleared the hair from one side of here face and pressed my cheek against hers, then she really began to move into me.
I then made a train consisting of all of HB8's friends who I had danced with. After this I danced with HB8 again. She told me I was cute. We danced, chatted, and danced for the rest of the night. Then it time for them to go I gave them hugs and then with HB8 I pointed to my cheek and said kiss goodbye. And she kissed my cheek. Then walked away, after a minute I realized I should have got her number so moved toward the exit and found her as she was just walking out. I pulled out my phone and said, "Put in your number." She did, the end.

Anxiety is something everyone has u cant get it off..
Waiting causes more anxiety that is why you should really
just approach the first group you see
I usually approach the male groups first : Open, Introduce and shake hands
This gives u club value and also makes u just have a good time in anyway
Then Id just go sit down next to another group and open them " This party is lame. Please Don't tell me u guys are lame too."Or any other suited opener. And boom You like just randomly become the center of attention. Just never shut your mouth.

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rAFC with the willpower of a expert PUA

I really liked this mission.

I've always been shy. Really shy, definite clinical social anxiety. There was a period in my life, ended recently, for instance, that among other things, I was afraid to go to the barber to get my hair cut. It's embarrassing but my mom cut my hair most of my life.

If I can do this mission absolutely anyone can. Anyone with the ability to say 'hi' can do this. Don't lie to yourself, especially if its toward your own detriment. If you're like me it just takes persistence, it took me my 5th try to get it down.

My favorite thing to do with this is to walk up to a girl with a familiar.."heey!"...open stance, smile,... how you'd greet someone you know when you unexpectedly see them in a public place... she'll sometimes return the greeting in a familiar somewhat confused tone.. trying to figure out where she knows me from... at this point ill drop my arms smile.. then walk on to the next girl... It no doubt comes across as playful.. its good practice im sure. try it its fun as hell.

This mission is a great confidence booster... I was surprised by how welcome my 'hey' was... many girls would smile widely and return the greeting... notably, I made a depressed looking girl look up smile and say hey... haha. I felt like a humanitarian...

a group of girls ( im guessing girls i had previously said 'hey' to) waved and yelled 'whatsup' from across the hallway of the mall... i said ' wussup' pointed and danced into a store... so yea. a little 'hey' can go a long way.

tried and failed lol, i did it in nyc, apparently ppl dont like saying hi there... though when i did start with "can i get your opinion on something" i did get a few replies

i'm doing the StyleLife challenge and it asked me to do this. i'm slowly getting the hang of it. i was actually really surprised at how often people actually listen and respond. i've only been given the cold shoulder once. it shook me pretty bad but then i realized that, that is what i was here for and that it wasn't going to be easy. i always think back to that very first complete cold shoulder moment whenever i sarge so it will motivate me to become better and have less chances of me getting that horrible feeling afterwards.

Great exercise... I realized that after the first hello. I didn't last long though because my "hellos" just naturally lead to conversations with the HBs.

I mean, a warm confident smile followed by an unassuming "hello" is even good to start conversations with other men.

Also, I might recommend saying "Hey Dude" to a girl because it comes off as so casual and immature yet unassuming, funny and maybe a little cute... as if you were suggesting that you're both kids on the playground.

Well I said hello to about 9 women today, in total I say that I've talked to 21 females now. Not actually talk to but said hi at least. One thing I notice is that I'm actually decent with women once there is already a rapport established some how. But its very hard for me to establish rapport. I actually have said hi to 21 females, and tried to talk to 3 so far in actual conversation. All of the 3 went wrong in some fashion, not really worried about that though. Had fun making my self look like a dumb ass lol. Its funny when you can acutally learn and laugh at your self. Thats what this is all about. Learning to laugh at your dumb ass self.

One thing to add. I also went to the mall at a bad time, a really bad time. I went around 3 pm on a saturday. Thats the time that underaged girls and families are out. You know, women not really searching, or that shouldn't be searching. NOt that i'm in any way a guru, but honestly to go in the evening time is the best time for any of these events. If you want to try and talk to good sexy LEGAL women in the day time. Then go to a coffee shop, or a book store like borders. Plenty of sexy at least senior in high school girls there. I went the mall I literally only seen like 13 decent women, and like 3 sexy ones. Now out of that I only talked to like 9 of those 16. So my point, go in the evening guys plz go in the evening.

So with all this being said, my question for the experienced members is, how do you get past the hi phase and get into building rapport? Or is this some other challenges? Would it be strange of me to make a special request of the forum leaders, and make a special section of challenges to all levels. Just make a list of challenges, organize them based on how you think a pua should advance his game. Have cleary marked sections for noobs, intermediate, and pros. I think this would help to keep the fire going on alot of this stuff. I'm gonna send a message to chief to request this.

Ugh, utter failure. I guess I can be glad I attempted it. I didn't say hello to a single girl that passed by.

I was feeling that I was up to it on the way here, ready to make improvement and progress, but lost my nerve. I walked around, hit some shops, bought a few things... but nothing, not a peep from me. I'm starting to realize how out of touch I truly am. At least I can view that as a positive.

The main problem I was having was establishing eye contact. I could be looking right at them and they would pass by, or take out a cell phone, talk with a friend or boyfriend (not that I was going for those!) and I never found a chance to say hello. Is that an excuse or something to work on?

Any tips? I'm going to try to build more confidence over the course of the next few days and get right back at it. At least one of my strong points is determination.

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"It's better to strikeout than stand at the plate and not swing at what life throws your way." - My Newbie Motto

I admit that i have not fully completed this mission. To Date I have only said hello to 21 women. However, it is critical that some of you guys go out and at least try. Seriously, some of you complain about failing and shit and you don't even try. Stop worrying about the end result and just do it. If you work hard at this and overcome your flaws, half of you can be chilling with beautiful women in less then 12 months man. I am so determined to improve my game, I have a schedule of when I practice, of when I talk to women, and who I talk with. I don't even worry about the outcome anymore. Because in the end its about improving your skills and getting better results. LIke the dude above me, makes me kinda sick man. He didn't even try. Thats why chief isn't even commenting, because no one is listening or even trying any more. Just abunch of AFC's complaining about how they can't get women and not doing shit about it.

I am going to make a new challenge for some of you dudes, go to the mall in one day, and say hello to just 10 women man. Not 100, not 1000, just 10. After that I want you guys to talk to 10 old couples, and talk to 10 people who work at the mall, or the places where you are at. Just talk with people and stop worrying about the end result. Tahts when you fuck up. Seriously guys, grow a little back bone it makes us brave men kinda sick.

I went on this mission today and I'm sorry to report utter failure. All I could manage was a silent 'Hi' under my breath to a few passers by.

When I read the original mission protocol, I thought 'great, this will be easy' and I was going to the mall anyways, but when it came to the crunch it was much more difficult than expected. All the people seemed to be walking around in their own little worlds which made it seem inappropriate to interfere with their own focus.

I am going to continue with this work, starting with UBS, older women, shop workers e.t.c who are easier to get response from, and work my way up to the HBS.

Will report back when mission is successfully accomplished.

Dr K

Good challenge

I did this yesterday and it made me so confident at the party I was at in the night. I didnt close anyone but I think my first "sarge" was quite a personal success. I was definately alpha and kept drifting in and out of groups to maintain my presence. At the end, everyone knew who i was and I even noticed some people were talking about me (in a good way) and approaching me to continue prior convos.

Im looking forward to the next outing.

Thanks

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Awesome, I had my first outing as well not too long ago, and am very happy about the results...

I'm also new to the game. So today I went to the mall to shop . After buying shirts, I'm about to walk out the store when I spot a butterface aka HB7. I went up to her and I used the opionion opener.

Overcome: hi there, you look like a smart girl with style. I have a quick question: should I trim my hair a bit or should I let it keep growing?
HB: well I think you should cut it, I like short hair.
Overcome: I've had the same cut for the past 13 years so I wanted to try something new (while I'm talking she sneaks a peak at me from top to bottom).
HB: haha, ok, maybe you should cut it a bit then...


Then I rejected. This girl wasn't really my type so I ejected.

Next I approached an employee at another store:

Overcome: your always getting in my way
HB: yeah, sorry, haha
Overcome: can I try this shirt on?
HB: yeah (walks me over to the dressing room)
Overcome: (after I walk out the dressing room, I walk past her and put the shirt back down)
HB: so what did you think? (It seemed she was giving me 2 different IOI's during my "game")
Overcome: I'm used to wearing more fitted shirts (I'm pretty muscular).
HB: oh, ok.
Overcome: well there is something else you can help me with
HB: yeah
Overcome: (I did the haircut opener from above)
HB: yeah I think you should cut it.
Overcome: hahah, ok well nice talking to you
HB; ok bye

Later on I saw her eating by herself at the food court but I pussed out and didn't re-engage...

I should have re-opened with:

Overcome: (take a seat at the same table) your advice was wrong. I asked 2 other girls and they saidimy hair looks better long (sly smile)
HB: blah blah
Overcome: what's your name?
HB: blah blah
Overcome: let's have but sex-right here right now!

Just kidding with the last sentence......


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