street (walking) pick-up issues?



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:52 am 
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i have been practicing day game. namely, day game on streets, and such places where targets are walking. though i have been able to open several, i just can't get it to stick, can't get the hook point. my openers were more spontaneous, but i couldn't really engage in a proper conversation. i'm not sure what i should be doing better. it seems like picking girls up on the street is naturally harder, what do i do to combat this? how do i fix the hooking issue? any ideas?
do i need better openers (used mainly functional, compliment, & situational)? more energy and to redirect the convo and keep it flowing until i hook? something else i'm not thinking of at all?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:13 am 
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Hey dude,

My day game model looks like this:

Open

Assumption/Compliment

Time constraint


Nick name number close


Note: It is important to say how completely RANDOM it is that you've approached her.

Comliment something specific about her then make an assumption about it, this will act as a hook.

Tell her that you can't stay long your boss is going to kill you if you dont get back

Give her a nick name and close it

(tell her three interesting things about yourself and get her to do the same so that you have some hooks to get back on to when you call her later that night)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:09 pm 
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Hey man, I agree with patranova for the most part but if its just a quick 2 minute conversation, regardless of whether or not you manage to number close, thats not enough time to build rapport and setup a day 2.

The opener is almost irrelevant, its all about body language and eye contact. So you approach a girl - with a good few paces between you both so she doesn't feel intimidated - look into her eyes and hold that eye contact, it conveys confidence and is so powerful. You must also have a certain energy about you and smile (but not a creepy fake smile)

You then might say something like, "hey, this is completely random, but can I tell you something really quickly [time constraint] (don't wait for an answer just tell her anyway), I was walking past and saw you, and would be kicking myself if I didn't come up and say... (pause for 2 seconds) .. I think you look great and I love your style..."

Then follow up with why you love her style, and give a genuine reason - this is where it become unique and specific to her so she knows its not just a rehearsed line.

Don't stay on this topic for too long though, try to move the conversation forward. At this point the biggest mistake I see people make is poor conversation skills and it starts to turn into an interview where they just keep asking questions. This is where you're likely to hear, "well it was great meeting you but I better get going" - for God sake do not ask her for her number if she says this, yeah sure she might give it to you, but only because you've put her on the spot. A day 2 will be almost impossible to setup from here. Good conversation consists of statements and questions. Make assumptions about her. Find something that interests her, and invite her to talk about it. Women love talking about themselves - its true!

Then after at least 10 minutes of conversation - but the longer, the better - make a connection with her, before number closing or even going on an instant date.

I'm a massive fan of Day Game, its so much fun and is a great tool for self improvement and confidence boosting. If you haven't already you should check out the daygame website. [Type daygame in google and its the top link]

Keep practicing though dude, if you get shot down use it as a learning exercise and get right back up and try again. The only way you get better is through practice.

Let The Game Begin!

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