Hmm. Gotcha. Thanks for the advice. I'm just curious though, do you think effective gaming could outdo my friend? Because he has no game, just attractiveness and stupid cockiness. I'm wondering whether or not gaming at this age works effectively, because he doesn't at all yet he is successful.

Oh and BTW, the 6 asked me to chill with just her on Wednesday, so I'm must have done something right. Lol.

I've reached a sticking point, I dont know how to aproch the girls when they are just laying there tanning themself on the sun bed. Tomorrow it might be my last chance.
So ill appreciate fast replies.

-Numi

Well, if you wanna take a cocky-funny approach, you should take your towel, run up to them, and sit right next to them. Hopefully they will laugh, and you can start the conversation from there, etc.

Thanks for the reply. Tough I dont have a chance to go to the beach anymore. But Ill keep that in mind for the next time.

Do anyone else have anything on their mind?

Well I think I've reached a sticking point. I seem to have a problem with isolation.

For example, if my friend and I are with two girls, I am fine with the group interaction. However, I feel I could obviously do more with 1 on 1. But I can never think of a non-awkward way of isolating my target without making it seem so obvious.

Any advice?

I usually whisper in her ear something like "Looks like they are getting along pretty good, lets leave them alone" then I start walking before she replies. She will follow and you will show more value.

wow, that's a good one. Never thought about it, but i'll remember now.

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I'm 17 now and in Holland we're allowed to go to clubs and drinking when you're 16 or older.

Monday 16th i'll be going to a sort of "party-island" nearby. So it will be a lot of partying and visiting the beach. Do any of you guys have some good beach-openers or something? I'd really appreciete it.

I'm a seventeen year old into game and my biggest problem is that I always go for girls that are older. I look nineteen or so but I still have difficulty in going for the close in many cases as they ask me what age I am.

I find it more difficult to sarge any girls my own age because they are generally immature and begin giggling and doing stupid stuff like that when I go sarging.
If there are girls that I like who are my age, I generally just approach as a normal seventeen year old would and chat naturally to them, no routines or anything like that. I might try out some PU things such as stealth seduction and I will always neg my targets but I never go full out because the girls are generally not socially adjusted enough to take someone our age seriously. The natural approach has worked for me in the past and I now have a steady set of female friends who I can have fun with and also try out some PU techniques on as well as the girls that I'm actually interested in.

It is hard to practice a lot of PU at our age as girls our age don't take us seriously, just as older girls don't take us seriously because of our youth, so I just have as much fun as I can and go sarging when I can and hope that this experience now will be worthwhile to me when I am older.

I'm 17 as well but for me the problem doesn't seem to be that girls dont take me seriously. The problem ive found is that direct openers seem to be too direct and it weirds them out. High school girls are very tricky sometimes but ive found the best thing to do is just approach with the mindset that your only looking for a good conversation. Then you have to usually take their guard down and by then its easy to close.

Good luck gaming though bro. sure thaint easy at this age.

Anyone else got the problem of being extremely busy and therefore not being able to look into the game more ? Like i got an awesome cold reading book and some other stuff thats really helpful but havent been able to look into any other stuff so im kinda stuck with the material i got. Ive got my trial exams coming up next week so all my times either focused on them or performances im in. But yea anyone else go this problem ? And just to frankie with the openers it depends on how u use them. I still believe facebook is a great way to test out new material and openers especially if there HB on there that u usually cant get a chance to talk to normally or approaching them cold seems abit awkward break the ice over something like facebook, chances are she'll be more accepting anyway cause she wont feel awkward being put on the spot wen u talk to her face to face. But yea i reckon starting off with any opener is good except the cube, wouldnt start with that id always start with an opinion opener and if im feeling lazy id go straight into a magic trick and ask them to pick a number between 1 and 50 and guess there number etc, all stuff like that helps and its good because chicks our age dont usually get approached like that so it instantly makes us different and memorable lol

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See my problem with facebok approaches is that my highschool is smaller then average with about 1200 kids and under 300 in my class. So everyone already knows each other and everyone knows your history so it can be really hard to meet new girls and hang with them cuz most already are set in their cliques. Any advice on how to approach/game a girl in a clique would be greatly appreciated.

Seriously bro ?? thats heaps ! my school would be lucky to have 850 people in it and i only got 120 in my year lol

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Believe it or not I find opening girls in groups as much more fun. Plus u have a high chance of scoring with one in my book haha.