FastFlyer I understand exactly what people are saying here regarding the gradual build up. My point is that it improves your general skills AS WELL AS AA with any HB (yes even HB8+), period. Indeed hot women are more intimidating but the more you approach (even average lookers) this will help with your confidence in general, which in turn assists your AA, regardless of the targets looks. Read my post again, you will be better off approaching HB8+ if youve had experience approaching other average lookers in the past, simple as that. I probably should have mentioned approaching too in my previous post, but i used the term general game instead (of which approaching is part of).

No AA will not completely disappear with HB10's by practicing on UB's, no-one is saying that. It will HELP with their confidence in general which will help partially combat some of that AA (deja vu!), meaning in terms of getting in the fight, they WILL be in a better position.

As I've said previously, who stands a better chance of being able to approach an HB10? the guy with no approaching experience what so ever? or the guy thats been approaching HB6's all his life, I mean lets be real here.

THANK YOU Visionxxxxx...your words were exactly what i was hoping for

Ok this Pua community and lifestyle is changing my negativity and attitude towards life day in and day out BUT seriously i think so many guys out there just think they are now pro's.Get fcking real! I would rather work on my friend zone killing first and then go for HB'S .and seriously i HATE that term UB's. i mean if women could label alot of you guys around here dont you realise you would be called a UB?
thats why i called it AB. i have not been successful with women ever so if i score 5 AB'S in a row this will do freaking wonders for my overall confidence and then i will follow suit and go hunt HB'S...(does that make you guys happy? )

YES...of course if you approach 32 HB'S in a row you will become acustomed to HB'S and they won't be as scary but thats not what i made this thread for. My biggest flaw is not being able to do Kino Escalation and making the lady know i'm not here to be the next best guy friend. But thanks for all the replies...thats what these communities are here for right?!

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neither.

The first guy is just inexperienced, the second guy will likely settle for another HB6.

Why spend time learning UB game and then have to relearn HB game when you can just start on HB game in the first place?

after 100 approaches, whose more likely to get an HB10? the guy that approached 100 HB10s or the guy that approached 100 HB6s?

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i do hate to say this but sometimes the ub is more likely to get aggressive lets put it this way, hypothetical scenario If your in a club only 2 girls a hb10 and a ub gets who will probably get hit on more and this will surprise you the ub the reason being is that the average guy will say theres no way i ll get that, so they go to the ub reason being is that the average guy will think she'll be grateful i came up to talk to her

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If you wana start on average looking girls to get your confidence up, then go for it but I dont see the harm in going for the HBs straight away man. I mean HB7s and 8s atleast. I think every guy has the ability to pull a HB7 regardless of there looks, unless you're grossly obese and ridiculously ugly.

At the end of the day, if your not attracted to a girl you'll find it harder to game her, this is what I find anyway.

I find that if you are naturally attracted to a girl, you will find it much easier to game her as it's almost an instinctive impulse to flirt, tease and neg a girl when you find her attractive. This applys especially if your using natural game.

If you don't wana go straigh for the intimidatingly hot HB10's then fair enough. However you should never game a girl that your not attracted to because not only will it be more difficult but she might catch on that your not attracted to her and think that your taking the piss.

You guys are overanalyzing this. Don't get caught up in arbitrary ratings. If you are attracted to her, you should approach her, period. Treat the HB6 the exact same you treat the HB10. remember, there is no failure, only feedback!

People say things like 'HB10=3 negs, HB9=2 negs' etc, but really you should not be doing this by how hot you percieve the girl to be but by how she is responding to you, which is a separate entity.

Agreed!

Vision, I apologize!! I should be taking some of my own advice and rereading your post. I 100% agree with you, I just had a long day and don't know what the fook I was reading lol. Anyways, sorry for the mix-up I agree with what you said.

Dude youre veering off the point here completely....

Im saying that approaching (no matter who the target) will increase confidence in general, which in turn will assist with approaching any HB. Stop boxing the whole HB10 approach, no it wont remove AA completely but it will still help in the grander scheme of things.
I agree with you, but that is not what we're debating here, youre off point.

Earlier you stated that approaching UB's will not help AT ALL and make it ANY EASIER to walk up to that HB10. Above I have explained why I believe this statement is false, simple as that.

approaching UBs won't make that HB10 easier to approach, some of your AA is gonna be gone, but the entire reason you started with UBs is sense of inadequacy, which will come right back when you're looking at that HB10, and on top of that, you'll already know you can get laid by UBs, so why bother with the HB10?


everyone should start with HBs, period, since your skills will go up faster with less approaches.

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I think the OP's point is that he needs to work up to HB10's.

The fallacy in this statement is that IMHO hitting on lower-value women isn't any easier. Many very beautiful girls are very approachable. Many HB6's are not. Their looks are not the issue.

Some HB6's have self-esteem issues, and will give you more shit than a happy emotionally secure HB10.

Additionally, if you get a bad reaction off a HB6 there is a tendency for your stupid ego to think "Wow, I can't even get a HB6. I must be such a loser, I can never have a HB10".

Conversely any kind of experience with a HB10 can be interpreted positively. One successful encounter with a 10 is more than most manage in a lifetime. Just talking to them and getting any kind of reaction is a major victory in itself. Talking to HB6's isn't, you've met hundreds of those already in your life.

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