Hey guys,

So here's the situation for me.

I'm about to meet the girl of my life in real life after making a successful connection through online conversation, and I am at the point where I need help asking her out to meet in person.

How might I ask her out in such a way that she'll knows that I want sex on the first day we meet? and that she will be craving and anticipating it.

I sort of know the answer deep down inside but yet not able to verbalize this into words, and if someone help me out through this, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

She's not going to make up her mind about having sex with you before you escalate physically (general touching,kidding etc)

Why would she even want to have sex with you when she doesnt even know what it feels like to hold your hand?

(Unless of course you got her dripping wet with sexual online chats and she has already made up her mind that she wants to f*ck your brains out when she see's you, but I doubt this is the case eh?)

Actually. The answer in your parenthesis is exactly what I would like to be able to do without doing it wrong. I don't know how it can go wrong though. Can you?

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

Well then take her home after the date and f*ck her. In fact, if you are so sure of this then skip the date and tell her to come around to your place.

You dont need her to anticipate sex, she either wants to, doesnt know yet whether she wants to, or doesnt want to at all. If you think she wants to, then whats the problem.

The problem is that I still haven't sexually aroused her through the conversation yet. And I am wondering how to do that and the precautious I need to take if I have already established a "friend" like relationship with this girl.

In other words, how do I unfriend her and make her want to have sex instead?

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

When i replied to your post, it just said 'Actually'. You obviously were in the process of editing it....

Well if you havent even created attraction yet then dont focus on trying to get her out on a date with her EXPECTING to have sex with you immediately afterward. Focus on creating attraction first. You can do this online initially leading up to your date (but dont over do it, limit your communication online and meet up asap).

Another need to do in order to turn up the heat is to turn your conversations sexual. Have you been doing this?

When on the date you will need to create attraction first, only then can you starting gauging whether she is going to have sex with you.

You dont have to shag her on the first date, your initial goal should be attraction, and then sex.

I am I understanding you here?

Take it easy, tiger. Women (usually) know, before they even leave the house, whether or not they're going to fuck someone that night.

Meeting someone you only know through the internet can be scary and sketchy. Don't make it worse by seeming like a creepy internet perve before she even has a chance to meet the real-life you.

And she may not look like her pictures. You may not even want to have sex with her. So hold your horses.

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Another need to do in order to turn up the heat is to turn your conversations sexual. Have you been doing this?"

Nope. Not yet. I've only been placing in sexual innuedos. Like using words like "long" "hard" "inches" in our conversations LOL.
I think she's somewhat turn on. BUt I can't tell if she wants to do it yet. LIKE with you. Need some help gauging this.

I think the attraction is there. Just needs to know if she wants to do it yet.

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

Good point. But there's never any lost to making her anticipating sex before actually meeting her. If she is not right, I will just break it off that night or something. Win-win situation.

As in regards to this point " Take it easy, tiger. Women (usually) know, before they even leave the house, whether or not they're going to fuck someone that night. " How do you tell if they want to fuck you or not as simplistic as this question sounds. In other words, how do you gauge this and at what point do you know for a fact that she wants to do it?

I'm thinking of just being direct and asking her "hey, let's meet up and let's just have sex," but I've never tried this before so I don't know what can go wrong.

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

Bullshit, maybe with sluts yes that'll be prepared to fuck any guy that wants to take them home regardless of whether shes attracted or not. How on earth can a women know if she going to fuck someone that night when she leaves the house if she has no clue if shes going to meet anyone that she is attracted to (or becomes attracted to), how can she want what she doesnt know? The 'usual' is actually the opposite to what you say...they go out with the aim in mind of having fun, get seduced and end up fucking (and to them it was completely unexpected, not planned and 'just happened'). A women will make up her mind when shes AROUND YOU as to whether she will fuck you or not, not when she leaves the house!


Why dont you take her on a date? Chances are very high that you will blow it by simply saying 'come over and lets fuck'. Her ASD will shoot you down for this unless she is a highly sexually liberated girl and really does just want to fuck you. Take her on the date and escalate from there. Im battling to see why you dont want to spend a bit of time having fun with her before the fucking.

Hi Visionxxx,

I'm just worried. You know, the usual. Anxiety.

If I can somehow arouse her, and make her the one who wants to do it instead of me, then on our first encounter, I wouldn't have to do the work LOL. She would be the one trying to sexually escalate.

I'm basically trying to do all the work behind the computer and let her do the rest. This takes the pressure off me, and it makes it easier to bed her.

But like I said, is this even possible? and how you go on about accomplishing this hypothesis.

I don't think what I am trying to accomplish is conventional and requires a lot of insights and techniques (experiences) ideas from you guys, but never the less is a way to take that anxiety aspect off me. (i'm basically trying to establish a way to make up for my weakness; I know my anxiety will always be there and there will be no point trying to pretend I'm confident and shet on the date).

For this reason, this is also why I ask this question.

"Im battling to see why you dont want to spend a bit of time having fun with her before the fucking"

I should and I am. I didn't say I was not going to. I just want to make this process easier by making the hypothesis above come true.

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

Im really sorry mate but thats just not how it works. You need to get over the anxiety, and forcing yourself out on that date will assist with this. Do it. There is no easy way out to achieve great things. You MUST put yourself outside your comfort zone in order to progress. Do you think the kings on this forum didnt have anxiety when they first started? of course they, but they faced it full on and plowed through it until they became the people they are today. Seriously, put yourself out there, its just a girl, and even if you do blow the date you will learn from it. You will lie in your bed that night and think jeez its really not that bad, what have i been worried about all this time!!! Do it.

Hi Visionxxxxxx,

It is. I'm scared LOL.

You asked me why I prefer to use my method. One of the other main reason is because this girl is someone I honestly truly like (I actually spend like a good 8 month trying to work everything out LOL), and I don't want to mess up the big moment.

By the way i was just looking for contents on "sexual esclation" through text messaging, and I actually found what I was talking about. it is infact already a method out there:

It is call Frame Reversal: The ebook was by Kingy. costed me 20$ lol.

So basically, you change the frame to make it seem like she is the sexual predator trying to seduce or impress you. And you can say things like “tag along as long as you promise to be a good girl” or “don’t get any ideas, I’m not that kind of guy x” etc

This will stop her worrying that it’s going be a date scenario and that you are going to be overly serious and expect too much from her. Instead you have demonstrated that you know how to laugh and it takes the pressure off you.

You should check it out too, or if anyone else has anxiety issues. Frame reversal is a great technique to ease the anxiety you have because it takes the pressure off you on the date.

Have you come across something like this?

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"There is always a solution to even the hardest problem in life."

"If something is important enough to you, you won't give up"

Be a man. You do not want or need to sexual escalate through sms or online. It is unlikely you will be able to even carry this frame into your date and then she is gonna take your new frame go wtf and its going to be awkward. take her on a date preferably not dinner and not a movie. attract, comfort, seduce. get her to laugh, then connect then escalate then f-close.

btw did u say 8months online wtf. youve been waiting for this day forever. I call a flake comin but prove me wrong.
Im thinkin she thinks this is no big deal and prolly flake but eh your fucked lol

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Inner game is the core, outer game is just an expression of it

Yes this is a known technique, but it wont magically cause your anxiety to disappear on dates. Most of these frame reversal 'lines' would be said in a teasing manner...eg. 'we can go back to my place for another drink, as long as you promise not to take advantage of me!'. Will get her to laugh but also indirectly imply that she is pursuing you and not vice versa.

Yes if you do this really well there may be a little so called pressure taken off you while on that date, but it will not remove that anxiety of not wanting to 'screw it up'. You need to face that head on my friend, it really is the only way. Practical experience is key. You need to see what it feels like to be on a date, show her a good time, and create that attraction.

The great thing is that you dont have anything to lose, you can only benefit from the lessons learned along the way and as a result you will improve.