What I mean is:

Assume a girl was stringing you along and you became frustrated. Would a good PUA ever just tell her "listen, I have lots of female friends. if you are interested in me, let me know. Show me the respect I deserve, I don't play children's games.".

Or, is it better just to keep gaming her?

Thanks!

my opinion no. The world of PUA is literally an underground world that probably 1% of the world even knows about. PUA's can't pull a celebrity card and be like "do you know who i am. I am Adam Lyons a world renowned pick up artist." they wont even understand wtf u just said. please dont tell me you are going to try pulling this on a girl. lol save ur self. haha

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That's not what he's asking. Yes, I do that. It's called direct game. It's kind of cheating because it doesn't really involve a lot of game at all if you're a good conversationalist and good at kino. In your example, though, I'd only do that out of sheer desperation because it's not likely to work. Her response will be along the lines of, "Oh, you don't like me enough as a person to be my friend, but you're willing to keep me around if there's a chance I'll put out? Gee thanks, but no thanks." Been there, done that. Giving a girl an ultimatum doesn't do shit but limit what you can do. You can tell her that, but she might stick around and keep trying to be your friend anyway; you can't enforce an ultimatum.

I've used, "Hey, I noticed you from over there, thought you were attractive; so I had to come over here to talk to you and have a closer look," as an opener. Nothing wrong with being honest, keeps your brain free to think of other shit.

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Thanks Minsok!

I literally just went through this.

First and foremost, absolutely everyone has told me the same thing: The girl is stringing you along because she can enjoy the attention without ever having to put out.

BUT, here's how my story went down:

She kept telling me she couldn't date, and that we should just be friends because she's leaving town and going through some personal issues. I tell her we can't be friends because we'll just end up getting hurt. Essentially because we DO have a connection/chemistry it can't work. We got into a couple fights over things along the way, with me basically getting angry because I felt like she was trying to control/manipulate me. I basically froze her out at this point, and ended up out with her and a few other mutual friends on Friday. We talk about the argument, and I told her it felt like she was trying to manipulate me. She said she wasn't, we dropped the subject but I still acted pretty standoffish with her. Not even gaming or a freezeout, I just felt a little angry because I still thought she was playing me.

Eventually after a few drinks she starts talking, telling me a few things that had been bugging her. I was dating another girl at the time, and they happened to be becoming good friends... and blah blah blah. Anyway, she said we could have been dating a couple weeks ago if I "hadn't been acting like a jerk." I start kino, and we end up hanging out until the next morning. In the end she says now she's ready to date.

So, maybe this was a special case... what seemed to work for me though was being direct. You don't want to be friends with her, you need to tell her that rather than drag it out with her thinking you're friends and you trying for more. I suspect that the more common scenario is that a woman is just using you for the attention though. Either way the answer is the same: I don't want to be your friend.