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I've sat in plenty of nice cars, usually of AFCs who expected me to slather all over their dick just because they pull up in a Ferrari. I order the lobster, and then I stopped return their phone calls. Why? Because they didn't challenge me. They thought that them being rich was enough.

Instead I dated the smart, cocky guy who made me laugh and called me on my bullshit. He didn't even have a car. But he was a challenge, and interesting, and we had a great time together. Oh and the sex was amazing.

Of course all things being equal, I'll take the guy with the Mercedes. All things being equal, I'm sure you'd take the one who looks like Jessica Alba. But all things are usually inequal. And rich guys have nothing on a confident man who knows what he wants.
Why would you take a guy in a Mercedes over a Ferrari? lol. But seriously I have no doubt you take the guy that is more challenging, but I bet you will pick the challenging guy who had money over the one that does not no?


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I've sat in plenty of nice cars, usually of AFCs who expected me to slather all over their dick just because they pull up in a Ferrari. I order the lobster, and then I stopped return their phone calls. Why? Because they didn't challenge me. They thought that them being rich was enough.

Instead I dated the smart, cocky guy who made me laugh and called me on my bullshit. He didn't even have a car. But he was a challenge, and interesting, and we had a great time together. Oh and the sex was amazing.

Of course all things being equal, I'll take the guy with the Mercedes. All things being equal, I'm sure you'd take the one who looks like Jessica Alba. But all things are usually inequal. And rich guys have nothing on a confident man who knows what he wants.
Why would you take a guy in a Mercedes over a Ferrari? lol. But seriously I have no doubt you take the guy that is more challenging, but I bet you will pick the challenging guy who had money over the one that does not no?
Thing is, some women actually do want comfort and someone real, seen it with my own eyes, women fucked around with by these "rich challenging guys".

Being with someone rich can be seen as a bit part thing, or something temporary, when a man has loads of money, are cocky, challenging, this can worry a woman.

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Thing is, some women actually do want comfort and someone real, seen it with my own eyes, women fucked around with by these "rich challenging guys"
That is certainly true. But these girls are harder to find at least where I live than those that go after men with money.
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Being with someone rich can be seen as a bit part thing, or something temporary, when a man has loads of money, are cocky, challenging, this can worry a woman.
A lot of times it is a temporary thing. I seen it and read about it enough to know this. The chances of it not being a temporary thing is very slim at best. As far as this worrying a woman, I am not sure it does. Some women are in it just for the thrill and/or money/lifestyle. Some even do it for the pay day when they divorce the guy a couple years down the road.


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Thing is, some women actually do want comfort and someone real, seen it with my own eyes, women fucked around with by these "rich challenging guys"
That is certainly true. But these girls are harder to find at least where I live than those that go after men with money.
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Being with someone rich can be seen as a bit part thing, or something temporary, when a man has loads of money, are cocky, challenging, this can worry a woman.
A lot of times it is a temporary thing. I seen it and read about it enough to know this. The chances of it not being a temporary thing is very slim at best. As far as this worrying a woman, I am not sure it does. Some women are in it just for the thrill and/or money/lifestyle. Some even do it for the pay day when they divorce the guy a couple years down the road.
Often see the same being in London, a lot of women want it made, and they realise the real side of things once their hearts are broken, get shit on etc.

I currently have a girl on side who's been with a soccer player where I graft in my life, but I do like it, It can be rewarding although hard, she does like me, has funny ways of showing it at times, but you know what, I'm taking it easy, let her do what I want, remembering I am the prize, I cannot be assed any-more with high maintenance women, when you show your not willing to offer it, a lot of the times she will fall to your demands, or see things how you do because your a kind of challenge, that "different" thing.

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just keep your car clean , and well maintained. Even if its not the most expensive, as long as she sees how clean you keep it inside and how good condition it is, that will impress.

Im into old modded imports *no hondas, but nissans etc*, ive had compliments.. some girls are cool, the ones who dont chase guys for their cars.. Then ive dated a girl who was into cars herself, those are the worst. I sold that car, and she like dissapeared too lol, just to go grab on the nuts of the next guy with a hot car..

So yeah man, dont feel too bad, girls into cars arent really good.

You might not have alot of money, you just gotta hit those girls with good humor.

But it is intimidating, girl talking about how her and her ex where gonna travel europe together etc.


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that's a shame because the interactions I had with the girl prior to this were quite successful.
Reading that above quote sound's like you've got a lot more problems than worrying about competing with guys with nice cars. I went 4 yrs of college with no car and i did just fine

You said your interaction with this girl were successfully? Not sure what success means to you. But for me with a girl i'm attracted to it involves me letting her know i'm sexually interested whether she accepts for rejects me thats success either way.

You on the other hand its highly doubtful this girl even knows you want anything more than a platonic friendship. Just cause your social funny and make her laugh means nothing anybody can do those things. You think the girls just gonna make the move for you sorry that's not going to happen.

This whole car thing wouldn't even be affecting if you weren't so worried about being liked and scared of being rejected by the girl. You're only hurt because you've invested so time and been so cautous to get literally no where with this girl then you see her jocking another guy, so you use his nice car as an outlet for your frustrations.

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Often see the same being in London, a lot of women want it made, and they realise the real side of things once their hearts are broken, get shit on etc.
But where I live a lot of these girls don't even love the guy and only stick around for the money. These girls are also ones that go around having affairs with other guys left and right until its time to divorce their husband. Kinda sicking really.


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Often see the same being in London, a lot of women want it made, and they realise the real side of things once their hearts are broken, get shit on etc.
But where I live a lot of these girls don't even love the guy and only stick around for the money. These girls are also ones that go around having affairs with other guys left and right until its time to divorce their husband. Kinda sicking really.
Play them at their same game man, don't even act serious. . .

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Often see the same being in London, a lot of women want it made, and they realise the real side of things once their hearts are broken, get shit on etc.
But where I live a lot of these girls don't even love the guy and only stick around for the money. These girls are also ones that go around having affairs with other guys left and right until its time to divorce their husband. Kinda sicking really.
Play them at their same game man, don't even act serious. . .
lol. You have no idea what I do to these girls. :P I freaking bait these girls with money and then pull the rug out from beneath them. I know it may be mean. But its so dam fun to do.


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But where I live a lot of these girls don't even love the guy and only stick around for the money. These girls are also ones that go around having affairs with other guys left and right until its time to divorce their husband. Kinda sicking really.
Play them at their same game man, don't even act serious. . .
lol. You have no idea what I do to these girls. :P I freaking bait these girls with money and then pull the rug out from beneath them. I know it may be mean. But its so dam fun to do.
Good, if your not mean, they'll do it to you.

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that's a shame because the interactions I had with the girl prior to this were quite successful.
Reading that above quote sound's like you've got a lot more problems than worrying about competing with guys with nice cars. I went 4 yrs of college with no car and i did just fine

You said your interaction with this girl were successfully? Not sure what success means to you. But for me with a girl i'm attracted to it involves me letting her know i'm sexually interested whether she accepts for rejects me thats success either way.

You on the other hand its highly doubtful this girl even knows you want anything more than a platonic friendship. Just cause your social funny and make her laugh means nothing anybody can do those things. You think the girls just gonna make the move for you sorry that's not going to happen.

This whole car thing wouldn't even be affecting if you weren't so worried about being liked and scared of being rejected by the girl. You're only hurt because you've invested so time and been so cautous to get literally no where with this girl then you see her jocking another guy, so you use his nice car as an outlet for your frustrations.
There's something you need to understand about my situation. Where I live, it's the norm for a child to get a car as soon as they turn 18 (become legal drivers). Going without a car would be simply unheard of, not to mention impractical.

Success to me is based on my own standards, and those change as I progress through the various stages of PUA. So, at this stage, my success was based on these facts:

-I held her interest
-Controlled the conversation
-Kept my state when another guy tried to AMOG
-Received various IOIs
-Most importantly, I didn't make any mistakes (by my own standards)

Your last two paragraphs are mostly negligible since you're basically deriving your own interpretation of events which never occured. I appreciate your analysis, but I can assure you that this is not the case. That's besides the point though.

The point is, or perhaps was, that it affected my inner confidence and self-perception. I couldn't help wondering if things would be different if I had money and a nice car. I went home that night feeling inadequate in comparison. In hindsight, I realize that I shouldn't feel that way, and I no longer do. However, my inner game still needs a lot of work.

*I apologize if I came off as disrespectful. That was not my intention.


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Play them at their same game man, don't even act serious. . .
lol. You have no idea what I do to these girls. :P I freaking bait these girls with money and then pull the rug out from beneath them. I know it may be mean. But its so dam fun to do.
Good, if your not mean, they'll do it to you.
Learn that years ago. :wink:


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Hi ill drop an opinion and some help for you. First of all I want to commend you on your mindset of wanting girls that are into you for you and not your possessions although at the same time I have to tell you there are alot of fake girls out there that are into guys just for what they have or the designer goods etc.

As someone that has done the young and rich routine on girls hell yeah flashing keys to my own benz and asking them if they want to go for a ride will appeal to a certain type of girl.

However-Not to stereotype but the majority of young highschoolers and college students that do have BMWs, Mercedes, or other high end car bought for them by their parents or family do rely just on their riches or the car and have no game at all-This is not 2 offend anyone who is on here and young, has nice ride, and has game lol. So it does depend but your average young guy with nice car bought for him by his parents is not mature enough 2 not show it off to the ladies.

So you do have an advantage and never get discouraged or allow a competitor to be able to bring you down or control your emotions. If your passionate and have the drive then I am certain you will have your own C300 if that is what you desire to drive and paid for by you-not your parents.

I would even possibly tease the girl about the car if you want.

Teases such as "Wow I see your going for the rich guys must mean i cant show you my VW's interior"

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"Wow I did not know your friend was so wealthy-what does he do for a living to afford such a high end mercedes"
(ironic that the Mercedes you mentioned is the entry level one and competes with the 3series not exactly an S Class...)


Stuff like this is not only amusing but if the girl does have a sense of humor you might be able to continue the convo and build stuff off it. It does always depend on the situation and remember its just an idea-but I have used teases in various situations and they can work and spark up a convo.

Anyway I hope this helps and do not let material possession that your competitors have discourage you because if she is attracted to you -and it does not matter to her what car you have- then you are fine if you have game and know whats up.

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