So the other night I had a day 2 with this HB8 and her friend while I was gaming with my wing man. Most of my game was pretty solid until the end of the night (at least I thought). We were talking, all four of us, and the HB8 said something in a funny way. I started making fun of her voice in a playful way but towards the end of the night she seemed kind of pissed. I couldn't tell but my wingman thought she was legit pissed at me.

So 24 hours later I text her saying "Hey are you still pissed about last night" and her response was "about what". I freaked out because I had no clue what to say back but my response was sincere. "I felt like last night I started pissing you off and I didnt want to end on a bad note" and I haven't gotten a response yet (this happend about 20 mins ago and its 12:32 EST). but anyways where did I fuck up.

How could I have handled this differently? If I could go back I wouldnt have said anything to be honest but what do you think I should have done so I can learn from this? Thanks guys, really appreciate the help.

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

Don't bother apologizing. If you apologize, you look weak. It helps nothing, she doesn't feel better. If you don't apologize, it will change nothing. If you happen to meet her again, and she still remembers, then perhaps you can apologize (DOUBT IT).

If she took it the wrong way, who cares, you had fun. She shouldn't be so touchy.

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Don't hate, just dominate.

AFC Royal.. Dude your one of the few guys who always knows what to say. Anyways she responded saying "hahah nahh I was joking dummyyyy" but anyways yea I failed that shit test but its whatever. I still can't figure out how to K-Close her on the boardwalk. Any suggestions for that because thats definitly my sticking point.. =[

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

I see no shit test.



I had similar thing with a girl who I kept ignoring. She got all moody and 'I'm not talking to you, fuck off' crap. I told her she's incredibly cute when angry.



After a (long) while, she started telling me she's not joking, and is really pissed off, I told her I dont care, she's still cute. She then ended up saying she wasnt mad and blah blah.



About apologizing...

If you are in the wrong, by YOUR morals, apologise and admit you hadn't acted in a way you see as appropriate. If you have offended her, but you think your actions were reasonable, apologise that she feels that way, or that she reacted that way. don't apologise for your actions, if they arent against your standards, but do apologise for the way she may have taken them.


'don't apologise, it's weak' ROFL. Grow up, little boys.


Do you know who don't like to apologise? I'll tell you... stubborn little girls. Are you a stubborn little girl?


Btw, if any of you have taken offence to any of this, I'm sorry you feel that way

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

AFC Royal.. I always love hearing what you have to say man. That being said I already said some shit so it seems like there's no going back now so what do you suggest? She replied to me saying "nah i wasnt mad dummmyyyy" so I pretty much fucked up on that shit test but yea I just didnt respond after that because I had nothing good to say and plus it was like 1 am by then. Any suggestions though on what I could say to her tomorrow?

Also how the fuck do I isolate on the board walk? It seems like its impossible in such a busy place. I'm probably going to just hang out with her and K close in another setting but do you have any ideas? haha

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

No offense taken. Though I would prefer to explain my reasoning.

I have had several of these instances where I think too much and then I "make a girl mad", and then I go off and apologize to her and she's like "whaaaaat?" Then of course you look stupid. You DO look weak, in that instance.

What I think you take issue with is caring about being perceived as weak. You are who you are and all that... True that, but if I go around apologizing to everyone, then the REAL apologies I should be making just look stupid. As in, "yeah, SURE you're sorry, pfffft."

Anyway, there's my ten cents on that.
If she wasn't mad, then just go ahead and start teasing with her or whatever. You could steal Finesse's line since he was kind enough to post here . "Ok, that's good, but you really did look cute when you were angry". Or some variation of that. Next morning, act like nothing happened and game as normal.

In theory, on the boardwalk, it's so busy that it's isolation. If, for example, there were just a few people there, two people making out draw a lot of attention. On the boardwalk, there are so many people that you draw almost no attention. So you could honestly K-close there. Anything further, though, and you probably want to bounce, preferably to one of your places.

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Don't hate, just dominate.

Being able to apologise, or show you are sorry for something, is more a sign of strength, as opposed to weakness.

It all depends 'where it comes from', or rather, how and why it is you are saying it.

✘ I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make you sad, please don't hate me, I'm sorry, please like me again.


✔ I'm sorry, I didn't mean for you to take offence. What I did was wrong. I'm sorry you feel that way.

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Thanks for the help guys, I truly appreciate it. I After analyzing the whole night though, I don't think she was mad and that she was just joking and that I wasn't actually given a shit test. In my opinion about apologizing, it's all about what happend because if you apologize when needed you look like a man who can realize when he fucked up. That being said if I apologize about something such as what happened and perceive it in the wrong light then I'll look like a dumb ass. I'm going to try and meet up with her tonight because she has to leave tomorrow but the K-Closing seems like a no go to be honest which sucks but I'll still give it a shot.

I'm just glad there's people on the forum that know what they're talking about that can help me out along the way as I get better at this shit. I have one-itis for this one girl that is LTR material and this other shit is basically practice for the big game lmao.. Thanks again guys

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

=D I concede the point.

I think the hang-up here is that rAFC's follow the general rule of "don't apologize" because they have weaker inner game (I am guilty of that), and so they risk coming across as pathetic if they apologize.

Of course, when you have REAL inner game, you can break the "rules". Which is what you are doing.

EDIT: I think it makes more sense for me to listen to you, since we have practically the same post count and you have nearly twice my rep.

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Don't hate, just dominate.

Royal wtf you have bad inner game? You seem like one of the smartest PUAs on the site haha that surprises me. To be honest I wasn't going to apologize but my wing told me afterwards that I should have. So I did, fucked up, but got to post a thread on here about it and learned a lot so I'm pretty happy hahah. You probably know this already but I'll say it anyways. The inner game comes naturally.

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.