dude shes too young for sex--kids grow up far too fast as it is---yer both 15 at that age shes weird and your weird she just doesnt want or know whether she wants to join up with you{because shes weird and sees your weird as weird} and be weird together

your young why get hung up on this one,go steal a car,break some windows,set off fireworks in the school coridor,

you guys arent helping at all

what is it your asking for???? im guessing you just want the quickest way to get her in the sack.

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if you looked back you would of seen what I am asking

"She is a flirt, so all three of us guys that she likes, she physically flirts with us.


I dont need kino because we already hug and touch alot......only problem is she also does it with the other guys that she likes.


What is the next step?

We already have heavy physical touching, but its flirty and not sexual......


I was thinking of using "the claw"??? anyone think I should use the claw??
or should I Completely stop talking to her on the phone???"

Firstly YOU and [probably the other two guys as well} should get out of the competing for her/performing monkeys mentality

Alright, move aside boys. And stop telling him to do illegal shit, that's for retards that don't have game. Oh my god, yes, use the claw. It's my signature move. Hugging is not enough kino to build attraction. Use the claw and if she likes it, escalate to a kiss. You have to set yourself apart from these guys and you do it by not being AFC like they are. Limit talking on the phone, and use pick up. Also, you are getting too desperate. Take a step back, this isn't important. If you strike out with this girl, there are millions of opportunities in your future.

Talk on the phone, but only long enough to make the sale, the sale is to get her to meet up with you. Once she agrees on a time and place, end the call. If she won't agree to meet up with you, cut her off completely. No more talking on the phone. She won't give you what you want, don't give her what you want, basic negotiation. Tell her you prefer to talk to her in person and if she can't give you that, it's not going to work out. You are a man, men don't like talking on the phone, they keep it short and sweet and to the point. This is why guys don't call up other guys for no reason. When/if you get her in person, then use kino. I recommend the claw, but look up other methods for building attraction. And tell everyone what your intentions for this girl are already.

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Just be straight with her. Tell her you won't put up with her shit. Just say it's either you or nobody. If she takes the other guys then just leave her

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Agree with above.thinking way back through the mists of time to when i was 15--the only way is as advised above by Turbo--cant see game working on a 15 year old girl

so does anyone believe it would work??

If i told her we need to talk in private (using "the claw" as we walk)....

then tell her:

"I know what I want, and I want it now, not in two months"....and then go in for a kiss?

or should i just tell her straight out

"choose me now, or I am done with you. I am not gonna compete with my friends for two months and give into your little games" and then just walk away?


should i tell her its now or never, or will i come off as a huge jerk

a lot of thought has to go into this--need to get your point across,you want her,you dont wanna play games or compete or act the performing monkey at the same time you cant seem needy or aggressive .

claw then ''im into you and would like too give you a chance but i want a girl thats into me 100% if that isnt you i have other options'' walk

something to that effect but it needs to be refined and perfected by our more experienced brothers before you go into action

ok herne, thanks....now i want opinions. should i take this somewhat aggressive route even if she doesnt want a boyfriend?

there no right or wrong answer and nothing is guaranteed it will work or it wont at the end of the day none of us are there with you so you have to decide what to do.

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did she say why she doesnt want a boyfriend--she hardly wants to remain single for ever does she.
when i was 15 it was probaly the deepest most depressing part of AFCdome in my life

I am gonna ask her again why she doesnt want a boyfriend but from the first time i asked her she said something along the lines of

"i dont want a boyfriend till school starts, Its summer and its a time where you are suppose to be having fun and flirty and blah blah blah."

i asked her if she just wanted a boyfriend when school starts so she can say "I am a freshmen dating a junior!"....she said its "no! like that at all"


She is a flirt, but she said once she has a boyfriend then its different and she doesnt do that at all.....

keep in mind that she did admit to liking me.....and i truly believe she isnt just taking me along for the attention or fun of it....


i just seriously dont want to waste two months of "competing" and then it comes to the school year and we are LJBF or she likes one of the other guys more than me.....

oh yeah make a move within the next 3 days---a lot of the time when we wonder what to do some completely new asshole other than the other 2 guys might come along and get her.

there cant and shouldnt be any 2 months waiting--you must deal with this by Tuesday--p.s nobody on earth likes Mondays really

i dont think the ''I dont want a boyfriend'' is really part of the equation its just girlie nonsense no girl is an island

oh and if she asks for more time to decide---dont give it too her--get your definite answer yes or no there and then