you should really consider changing ur handle to Joe Dirt by the way you got us all on the edge of our seats following ur progress. awesome work bro! very inspiring, needless to say.

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Awesome man!

It's funny how life works sometimes isn't it...all that from just a random guy needing a spot at the gym.

Good contact to make, sounds like your game will be stepping up even faster now that you've made that friend.

Same.


Also, good fucking job keeping your promise to yourself - few people are that loyal to themselves.

Night 28
Topics: Number Closes, Lack of Sexual Escalation, Troubles Dominating the Conversation

So I went out with my newfound wing that I mentioned in the last post. We started off downtown, but his ID wasn't working anywhere so we couldn't get in. We headed back to the campus area and went to a pretty cool bar.

Right when we got there, he opened a set and I joined in. It was a pretty dry conversation and we had a hard time keeping it going, so we left pretty quickly and talked amongst ourselves for a sec. Then we opened another set by the bar and talked to them for a while. Then back to talk amongst ourselves and regroup, and he pointed to a 2 set in front of us and told me to open them. I opened and he smoothly joined in. It was two HB5's, and they were white but somehow I mentioned that my roommate is from Saudi Arabia and it turns out they lived there for over 10 years. So I had a lot to talk about with them, from the food that I've tried to the customs I've learned and stuff, it was an easy convo because it's not something they get to talk about everyday but they knew a lot about it and were excited to share it with somebody. My wing and one of the girls ended up leaving and I talked to the one girl for a long time. I wasn't really interested, but I wasn't leaving such a great conversation without a number close so I took her number, talked for another minute, and ejected.

I've never actually worked the bar before, so I've never opened a set and then re-opened them later in the night (and least not that I can think of off the top of my head), but next we went back to some of the girls that we opened earlier in the night. It was really easy to re-open them, talked for another 5 minutes or so, then headed downstairs. After some hanging out down there, we came back up and opened a 3 set that was sitting down. We were standing, but my wing pulled up a chair real quick and I followed suit. We ended up chilling with them the rest of the night, had about a 20 minute conversation with them at their table, and pulled them out of the bar to my wing's frat house down the street. He was doing a great job sexually escalating with his target this whole time...for me it was basically non-existent. I did some very light kino (touching her back on the way out, touching her arm a bit, etc), but he was already at the point of holding hands and almost to the point of k closing.

The five of us get back to his house and hang out on his upstairs patio. It's not long before he and his target go inside and (to show you the value of his sexual escalation) he f closed her with relative ease. I stayed on the patio with the two girls. I made two mistakes while with them. First of all, I sat next to my target but barely even put my arm around her. I wasn't quite sure what to do about her friend being right there, so while I contemplated this my window of opportunity closed. I couldn't have waited 15 minutes and THEN put my arm around her. Well, I guess I could have, but it would've been very, very weird. So I settled for good eye contact and occasional kino.

The second mistake I made was that they completely dominated the conversation. I was pretty tired at this point so I didn't have high energy, and they talked most of the time about their high school friends and stuff that had absolutely nothing to do with me. But, they are old friends catching up (the one had been in Austin for 3 years, and my target is just here this week for her orientation), so I guess it's natural that they wanted to talk, but as their own conversation went on (coupled with my lack of good kino) I felt my attraction with my target growing colder and colder.

So, in the end they left, my wing got the number of the girl he closed, and he invited them all out tomorrow night to the same bar. My target excitedly agreed, so since I knew she was in I tried something different: I number closed the other girl. We'll see how it works out tomorrow, but I thought of it like ignoring the target but over a longer period of time. I have a lot of catching up to do if I want to make up for the way that tonight fizzled out at the end, so tomorrow has to be kino, kino, kino.

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Started reading this thread a couple of days ago and finally caught up! First just wanted to say a massive well done on your progress, I hope I'll be able to look back in two months time and see as much improvement as you have.

With the two girls on the patio, wouldn't have been an interesting time to try for a threesome? Could have brought them back inside saying something like cold etc. I guess as you were at your wings house it would have been a bit more awkward. I like what you done with the number close, hopefully that will help rather than make the attraction even colder. I totally agree with heavy kino next time. Looking forward to seeing how this goes. I'm still trying to covert my number closes to day 2's so am reading with interest!

I didn't even think of that, but the funny thing is we were stuck on the patio while he was inside because it was a locked door. We couldn't go anywhere

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"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

So it looks like those girls flaked on us for tonight, but I thought I'd mention one of our conversations from last night that I didn't go into detail about in my last post. I am saying it now because they ate this stuff up.

My wing and his target went to the bar to get a drink, so it was me and the two girls (my target and her friend). I was talking a lot with her friend, and my target was starting to zone out a bit. So I changed the subject over to her and said "Hey, Target, so what are you going to study here...and DON'T say psychology!" She goes open-mouthed and says "OMG! How did you know that!!!" I saw this as a great opportunity to do a mind reading routine that I read in a book. It's also in the Routines forum I think. So I said, "I'm actually a psychic." I got the usual "No you're not" so I said "I can prove it to you in 2 minutes." She excitedly agrees, and her friend is into it too.

Here's the routine, for those who haven't come across it yet:
Me: Pick a number 1-10. Got it?
Ok, now multiply that number by 9.
Now add the two digits of that number together, and then subtract 5.
Got your number? Ok, now assign that to a letter of the alphabet...A=1, B=2, etc.
Think of a country that starts with your letter.
Take the last letter of that country, and think of an animal that starts with that letter.
Take the last letter of that animal, and think of a fruit that starts with that letter.
Ready?
You are thinking of a kangaroo eating an orange in Denmark.

I did some other stuff in between, like staring deep into her eyes and feeling her hands so I could "read her mind." Play it up real big. But they went crazy for it, and my wing said when I left the table they were still trying to figure out how I did it. (If you haven't figured it out- If you add up the digits of any number between 1-10 multiplied by nine you always get 9, subtracting 5 always leaves you at 4, which gives the letter D. They always pick Denmark over Djibouti, almost always pick kangaroo over koala, and always pick orange from there. It is hard to make a mistake)

So yeah, that was my first time trying it in field and it worked wonders. And as a side note, during the night I finished StyleLife day 12 and so I'm on to Day 13. I know I haven't mentioned StyleLife a lot recently, but I figured I'd update you guys on where I was.

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Haha. I used to do that stuff in primary school. Did they actually think that it was a mind reading thing. I didn't realize girls swallowed this chick crack stuff so easily. I'll have to try it.
Veyg good. You could have said something cocky/funny like "I used psychology. It seems I'm better at psychology then you are" obviously in a teasing manner.
Was that just a guess then? I've noticed lots of girls seem to do psychology.

Nah, they knew I couldn't read minds, but magic tricks can still look cool even though we know they're not real. Definitely try it!

Haha that's a great line. The reason that I said it was because I was kind of making fun of psychology...like sub communicating that that's what EVERYBODY does. But she didn't catch on and instead got really excited that I guessed it, so I played along

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I just wanted to let you know that I really am glad that I came across your posts.I was going out and experiencing some of the same things you have written about,and was getting discouraged,but then I started reading your posts and not only can I truly relate to them,but they have given me invaluable insight.It is awesome to see your progress,but your sticky points as well,because it helped me realize that there will be ups and downs,and that even though some days go very well,and other's not so well,the game is about constantly working on your self.Just like how at first you thought you had over came AA ,and then after like 14 days you were experiencing it again,it really showed me that it is not about eliminating certain emotions or situations,but rather feeding off of past sucesses and failures to guide you.I think your daily blog is an exellent idea and asset to all aspiring and existing PUAs and as of to I am going to start my own daily journal in order to maximize my sucess,and also to hopefully inspire other's as much as this has inspired me.Thanks alot brotha!!

Day 31

This past Saturday, I spent 2 hours in a Barnes and Noble doing two things: First, I was planning out what to do every night for the next week. I used a newspaper called the Chronicle which lists the musical, artistic, comedic, etc events that are going to happen every day. This was a part of the StyleLife Challenge. The second thing that I did was read Cosmopolitan magazine cover to cover. Here are some of the conversational topics/interesting insights that I got from it:
- Somebody just invented flavored inhalers (chocolate, coffee, etc) to help curb cravings for food
- A new trend in the dating world is Eye-Gazing Parties, which is kind of like speed dating except in the beginning the people stare into each others' eyes for 2 minutes in silence to get a deeper connection
- The best relationship advice Shakira ever got: "Let the man be the conqueror"
- Women place higher importance on looks than men do when choosing a casual sex partner (don't we learn the opposite of this in pickup?)
- Strippers earn more money when they're ovulating
- Your bed reveals a lot about you (clean, minimalist means you are direct and say what's on your mind, feminine sheets/pillows mean you like to be pampered, and there were some others that are all good cold reading material)

So the last part of the challenge I didn't complete. I was supposed to talk to 3 women about some of these topics or insights, but there were mainly just families in the store, so I haven't quite completed Day 13 yet.

I think looking ahead and planning out your week is a spectacular idea. Not only is it nice to have a plan, but it will give you a reason to meet girls. I'm hoping to meet a girl tomorrow or the next day to take to a cool event on Wednesday night. If I didn't have this event planned out, I might not place as much importance on trying to meet a girl before then. It makes you more interesting and it lights a fire under you!

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"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

I'm glad to be an inspiration. It makes the process easier when you are able to relate to people and realize that we all go through the same stuff to get to our final goals. Onwards and upwards my man.

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Day/Night 33
Topics: Sarging alone

I decided to walk around campus in the early evening today because I haven't really tried my luck in that time period. So I left at 7pm and walked around until 8:30pm and saw about 7 possible targets during that time. I opened 5 of them, but none got very far past the opener for some reason or another. The hottest girl I opened was super friendly to me, but I opened her while we were crossing the street (going in opposite directions) so she hurried up and ran off so she wasn't in the way when the light turned green.

Later in the night, I went to that blues bar that I went to last Monday night. I was alone this time though because my buddy was studying. I'd say I was fairly successful in terms of sarging alone...I talked to 4 groups of people for an extended period of time. I got to know three guys really well, which is good because many people there are regulars so if I go back alone again I will probably already know a couple of people. There was no success in terms of number closes or anything, but it was good practice for going from zero social proof to a little bit of social proof. Also, I saw something that I haven't seen since I was in Spain...the hottest girl all night (prolly an HB8.5) walked past me, and as she did I noticed her armpit hair was longer than mine . I can say with 100% certainty that I am NOT a fan of au naturel women.

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hey thats awesome that you are from Austin. I go to Austin for UT. I'm new to PUA and this thread will help alot bro

keep up the good work

Day/Night 34
Topics: Stacking threads, Needing to do more approaches

After doing a few approaches today, and reflecting back on the minor successes that I have had so far, I realized that my next biggest problem is stacking conversational threads. My approach anxiety isn't gone yet, but I'm dealing with it better now. I don't have a problem opening unless the set is big (like more than 4 people) or if the girl is extremely hot. So my problem isn't opening, it's getting past the opener.

I have gotten past the opener (stacked threads) on multiple occasions so far on this journey, so I know that I can do it. For example, I talked to the girl that I met last Wednesday for at least 10 minutes about Saudi Arabia, travelling, lots of stuff. But there were two things that made that situation particularly easy:
1. That set hooked almost right away, and I didn't have to be incredibly talkative in the beginning because they were talking a lot too.
2. I got lucky that she had lived in Saudi Arabia for 10 years, so we had some common ground on an interesting topic- the conversation was easy. (No, I haven't lived in Saudi Arabia, I just know a lot about their food, culture, etc now because my roommate is from there)
Those two things made that conversation go very well. My problem, then, is what to do when the set doesn't hook right away, and when we don't find interesting common ground right off the bat.

For example, I was walking a busy area of campus today and went into a clothing store just to look around. They were selling a Detroit Red Wings shirt in the store so I opened the worker standing by me and asked her why. We talked back and forth a bit, I mentioned I was interested because I was from near Detroit and it was weird to see our sports apparel for sale down here. She was nice and answered my questions, but the set never really hooked and the conversation died.

I know that it is my responsibility to keep the conversation going, especially in the beginning and before the hook point. But that is what I am having trouble with. EVERYTHING about talking to strangers is weird to me. I am improving this a little bit (I would've never started that conversation in the first place a month ago), but I have a lot of work to do still.

What's the solution? I need to do more approaches. It's a simple answer that solves a hell of a lot of problems in pickup, but it still takes balls and effort.

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