Quick Reveiw of 15 Steps to a Master Seducer by Kezia Noble



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 Post subject: Quick Reveiw of 15 Steps to a Master Seducer by PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:52 am 
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I'm on step 10 but think I can give a fair review of this book. I have seen a couple of Kezia's video presentations from PUA Training and she gives an excellent female perspective on what works for women. Her book is no different and the most succinct way I can think of to describe it a guidebook on conversational jiu jitsu.

Although the book includes refreshers for experienced players on body language, including a neat way of checking the "columns" of posture while in set, most of the book is designed to steer guys into a state that will make women comfortable being around you and avoiding bad frames.

The 2nd page of the book has this gem:
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The successful seducer has learned that the outcome of his interactions is very much in his control...
It doesn't get much better than that but the advice in the following pages gets even better.

I'll skip ahead to the heart of the book, the Nine Hook Lead system. This system is a method of organizing appropriate methods of leading the conversation and which ones to avoid. This part was really useful to me since I have a load of routines and lines I can refer to in set but did not have a systematic knowledge of when I should say one or another or what topic to mention to get the girl helplessly investing into the conversation and into rapport building topics. Sure I know the standard Mystery Model and other methods galore and have a string of successes since learning game but which topics to prioritize in a conversation is something I was fairly clueless about(!). I've since been practicing at work and have been building positive rapport with a number of people by soliciting their interest in good movies or restaurants to eat at.

I consider this book a companion to Gambler's Natural Art of Seduction and I suspect it was intended to be that way 8). Although Richard's book is my first recommendation to anyone interested in books on game (The Game by Strauss is so woefully out of date I wouldn't want to burden someone with obsolete game!), it is more of a linear description of 'what happens' over the course of a pick up and Kezia is more of a description of why a pick up progresses (including a couple stories of the very lucky bastards she favored). The biggest lesson I got from Richard on that one is how to use empathy to develop an emotional connection and with Kezia how to smoothly keep control of a conversation to the end you desire. :wink: Worth a few quid? Hell no, it is worth a lot more than that, please don't buy her book I need a leg up on you guys!


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Are you Kezia in disguise? Are you Kezia in disguise? :lol:
Nice review. She has a great rack.


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Its nice to hear a good review of the book...

I was in two minds whether to buy it or not and then decided not to as the reviews were really bad!


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i think its a good book a bit oversimple though, it is basically the whole concept of pua training theory on being a 'natural', personally i think if we were naturally good with women we wouldnt be on here,

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i think its a good book a bit oversimple though, it is basically the whole concept of pua training theory on being a 'natural', personally i think if we were naturally good with women we wouldnt be on here,
Hmm, the end goal is to be naturally attractive to women but the techniques are structured in a way that takes the guess work what that entails. For example, I know I am an attractive man and that I have had a fair amount of success with game however I've also had instances, including very recently, when I could of been a lot better.

Let's compare a RSD-style natural game: the guy knows about a woman's 'blueprint' and what things to say to make him stick out in her mind as an attractive male but the Nine Hook Lead system gives you nine categories of easy to use statements to get a natural conversation going ("do you know of any good movies?" and "was your career something you wanted to to do when you were little?"). RSD natural although he fun Mr. sociable guy is also unaware of the difference (at least from a theory perspective) between Low Caliber Hooks and High Caliber Hooks and how to gauge her reactions (something Kerzia highlights).


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