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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:24 pm 
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Hi guys,

I am from India and living in USA. I came an year back so I have a slight accent. I am an attractive guy and very confident now. Also i am a very dedicated PUA student who spends hours each day learning and practising PUA stuff so take my question very seriously. My game is mainly comprised of MM and natural game. My attraction and comfort phases is very good now. But what frustrates me is the apparent racism of many girls in USA. I have got great results many times but often I come across what can be interpreted only as racist behavior. Some girls wont even give me a chance to open my mouth( like one girl who put up her hand like a stop when i attempted to run opener) and proceeded to talk to another white AFC who came by. others who give disgusted looks when u approach them, some others while having an awesome conversation, spot some white guy and leave for no apparent reason. It really hurts when drunken AFCs who just bullshit( i listened to a few) seem to get girls so easily when one with class game like me gets rejected. I never believed race was a factor in PUA but in field observations has changed my perceptions. What u guys feel? Any indian pua in usa who has similar experiences would be helpful.thanks

P.s: pls dont reply perfect ur technique or increase confidence or buy good clothes. Like i said i am a dedicated student who does deep analysis of what i do. i am talking about an issue over which i seem to have no control..I need genuine opinions about similar issues(especially from asian and indian puas)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:50 pm 
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cuteguy:

The only common denominator is you. Depending on where you are win the world, race could be detrimental to your success, but no more then being ugly, not funny, un-confident, over weight, etc.

I think, as much as you don't want to hear it, I would say that its coming from you subconsciously (personality, body language, style, etc.).

Just my opinion, I hope other people contribute as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:58 pm 
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Simple answer ... No it doesn't from what I have seen
Tips : learn to develop the full American accent focus on this the most! i cant stress how important it is to develop a full accent.
deviate away from stereotypes of Indian people and maybe pick up an unusual dress sense that an Indian person wouldn't usually wear.

Why might it effect your game ? stereotypes .... deviate away from them and you will be fine.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:25 am 
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Sorry but I couldn't help but read your post in an Indian accent.

Now, to answer your question would take a very lengthy essay. I think maybe you should aim for other foreign girls for now. White girls in Albany may not be so open to the idea of dating a foreigner.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:03 am 
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Well, I'm Indian, born and raised here though, but I can still relate to what your saying somewhat. I don't have an accent so that's sort of an added benefit since people will not be sure what race I am and sometimes they're even surprised when I tell them I'm Indian, because they'll have thought I was Hispanic, Egyptian, mixed, or whatever.

I was more insecure about race when I was younger because I didn't like being different and I always sort of thought white girls prefer white men mostly, but now I'm increasingly starting to believe it doesn't matter as much, and that it was all just in my head. In the end, it really is all about confidence, and I figured out strangely that white men do on average have more confidence, because of differences in culture and the way they were raised, in addition to various media biases that you might find. So really that's more where the effect comes from, it's not really the color of your skin that's turning them off, it's the confidence of white men that's turning them ON. If mentally your coming from a mindset of inferiority to white women, then it'll come off in the form of nervous behavior, lack of eye contact, etc. Get rid of these, start thinking of yourself as equal or better than these women and you should be alright.

On one date with a white chick I met online, she even told me of one of her friends meeting a man from India and she ended up marrying him and moving to New Delhi to be with him. And I'm sure he knew nothing about pickup. So really it can be done if you believe it can be.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:30 am 
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cuteguy replies:

I like the replies..u guys definitely make sense..but its also true that RACE IS NOT AN ATTRACTION SWITCH..race is not hardwired into a womans replication circuit..So logically a girl should not be attracted to any guy just bcoz he is same race as her..but it still is a huge barrier (mpua asian playboy says race is the biggest problem for asians) so there should be some way to get around it..only if i could contact James matador(mystery's wingman)..he is indian too..wonder if he still runs into sets that shut him out just bcoz he is indian..does anyone have his email?


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Just ignore it and plow.

Of course you get disinterest. Girls are programmed like that. You plow through, and she realizes you are of high value.

For example, if she puts her hand up, ignore that and continue. You can push it out of the way or something.

Another thing that might help would be to improve body language. If you're so confident, you should have good body language. Then again, most people still don't. So getting that perfected really helps you out.

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