What can I say... I HATE cell phones.

2 weeks ago I started improving my daygame. Every time I walk on the streets, at least 40% of the girls I want to approach walk around talking on their phone.

I see a chick, the environment is cool, I have a brilliant opening line on my mind with a planned transition, my energy, state and body language are in check and I'm about to go in confidently, and BOOM, she starts talking on her cell phone...

Here's the worst scenario - I'm in set, things are going well, and her phone goes *RING RING* and she answers it and starts talking for 50 years and I just stand there like a solo cholo, sometimes it gets really awkward and I eject...

Like what the fuck!? It makes me so mad, that I want to take the phone and smash it in the ground.

How can I overcome this? Any advice will be appreciated.

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Don't let this get to you, but some girls will fake a cell phone conversation because they DON'T WANT to be approached. Where are you doing day game? There are places where women just aren't in the mood for nonsense and have things to do. If girls coincidentally always start talking on their phone when you're just about to approach, it's not a coincidence. There's something about the way you LOOK that makes them immediately decide they don't want to you talk to them. If a girl has her phone shield up, you have it right, don't even try.

For your specific scenario, where you were interrupted by a call, the girl chose the caller over you. You just weren't that interesting yet. If she was into you, she would have immediately told the caller she'd call them back. Best advice, if that's not the second sentence that comes out of the girl's mouth in the unlikely case this happens again, take her hand, write your name and number on it and leave. That would be the cool thing to do, but really depends on the girl and where you were in the attraction phase, could get you bitched at. But either way, you leave. You don't stand around like a knob. Make sure that you signal that you're about to leave with a little wave goodbye and an exaggerated sad face; don't just slink off like a creeper.

Thanks for the feedback. The thing you mentioned about the approach... makes sense. Maybe I should try looking as indirect as possible. I don't know what I might have conveyed.

But, I still see girls that are already talking on the phone, so most in most cases the phone talking block isn't intentional. I mean I spot a hot girl and she's already talking on the phone, I hover my eyes to another location and again I see another "phone girl". Seriously, they should just duck tape their cells to their faces...

And what you mentioned about the calling in set... Well that makes sense too. I should tweak my tactics a little bit. I have some stuff in mind that I wanna try...

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You know, honestly if I were trying to talk to a girl and she answered the phone and got into a conversation, I'd find it a little rude.

Why not just start talking to the nearest girl you see. Make it clear somehow that she just lost her chance at you? I wouldn't give her my number OR make a sad face, that makes it look like you're the one losing the chance.

I think its rude when a friend or co-worker answers the phone in the middle of my conversation....so its REALLY annoying when a girl does it.

Some of the points made above can be true, but its difficult to make a hard rule that its your BL or appearance causing girls to get on the phone.

Specifically if a girl interrupts you to answer the phone, and is on the phone for more then a few seconds, you could try what minsok said, if it feels right...OR walk away...OR walk a few feet away and start talking on YOUR phone. That way when the conversation is done, if she re-approaches you, she is the one now waiting and it is definitely an IOI that she came back and "chased" you.

I agree that it's a DLV to stand there waiting for the girl. You're an important person, girls should not keep you waiting. If she starts talking on the phone, I would just say goodbye and leave. Maybe if she's into you, she'd hang up the phone and say wait come back. And maybe not. As Style said in The Game, you have to be willing to lose the girl in order to get her.

Agreed. You don't need to stand there waiting more than a few minutes. Granted it's hard to expect a girl to hang up the phone on a friend for a guy she just met. Still, you can start to use disinterested body language to convey you are about to leave. You can look away, body rock away, even take a step away. If she likes you and she sees you are about to roll then she will likely tell whoever she will call them back in a minute. Either it will work or it won't...when in doubt walk away. Walking away is the best negotiation tactic there ever was.

I know you guys are great, I know I'm great, but you are being unreasonable to expect a stranger to screen her mother or best friend for you. Would you be totally incommunicado and drop everyone just because a girl approached you? That looks like DLV right there. If she's into you, she'll keep the call really short. If she's not, she'll ignore you. If she's into you, she should say, "Hold on a sec," to you when she answers. If she just wants to blow you off, she will just answer the phone and not say anything; which is a little rude, but a clear sign you should eject IMMEDIATELY.

Sad face is an EXAGGERATION. It's fun, you're not supposed to actually be sad. It communicates that you are disappointed, which might encourage her to rap up the call. If you act like you don't care AT ALL, why the hell would she bother trying to keep you there? Despite what you guys have been drilled, it doesn't give your game away to let a girl know you're interested.

And F_I_X_E_R, if a girl is already on the phone, she doesn't want to be approached. Some girls will fake a conversation just because they don't want to be bothered on the walk home. It's not personal, they don't want ANYONE to approach them. If girls open their phones and start right before you approach a lot, then it IS totally personal. I'm a little worried about your hostility about it.

I see what you're saying minsok, but it's still a bit of a dilemma. What exactly do you do while she's on the phone? Just stand there? What if she's going to talk for 10 minutes, or for an hour? I wouldn't just stand there for 10 minutes. Look at it this way: If one of my friends sees me and asks what I'm doing, can I really hold my head up and say "I'm waiting for this girl to finish talking on the phone so I can try to chat her up".

Maybe another solution would be to pull out your phone too, or go away and come back in a few minutes.

I answered that already. To summarize, if she doesn't tell you to, "Hold on a second," when she answers the phone or if she doesn't say, "Let me call you back," in the first ten seconds of the call, you bail. Wave goodbye and leave.

She tells you to hold on, but the call takes more than a minute, and you start feeling like a knob, this is a good time to write your number down for her and make a sad face like you don't want to leave, but have to. On her seems more fun, but I should've said earlier I've never tried that. If she tells you to hold on before answering, it's an IOI. If she doesn't, then she most likely wants you to go away and you should respect that.

Guess this is one of the minuses of day game... You have to deal with those phones, unlike night game.

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What're good places for day game if you're over 25? Bookstores, coffeeshops?

Well, I can't tell you what the best places are for sure, but this is how I roll:

I approach moving sets on the street аnd seated sets on park benches.

I haven't yet tried bookstores and coffee shops. Bookstores barely have any customers at all, so it's very unlikely I'd meet the girl of my dreams there. And about coffee shops... the environment is kinda tricky... I still can't figure out how to approach correctly there.

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It only takes one girl to be the girl of your dreams. People that are milling around coffee houses and bookstores generally have a lot of time on their hands. Sets on the street like at an outdoor mall seem like a good idea. But I get the feeling that girls shopping are on a mission and it's not leisurely enough for me. I'm really interested in trying some day game, though. When you say you pick up girls off the street, you mean around a mall or something?

Well yeah.

I go downtown. There is a big, long street, that has cafes and shops on each side and a few benches. A lot of people pass trough there, especially chicks. I have in mind the exact daytime hours when people tend to go out and cluster.

In front of town hall, for some odd reason there are at least 3-4 standing sets each time I pass trough there.

Once I did mall sarging, while I was on a trip to a city, there are no malls in my hometown. Anyway, that went fairly well the people seemed friendly.

And about the shopping/mission thing... well... you just have to bust trough that... I use time constraints when things start to get tough. This is key. Just make sure you have some valid reason for approaching and make sure she knows you won't stick there for long.

And I recommend strongly doing daygame. There is a lot of info out there specially on this branch of game.

I started daygame because I find doing club game, at least in my area, very difficult...

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