Hi guys. Im new to this forum and I was just browsing through some of the "tips" like the newbie mission etc. Does all that stuff really help? Every girlfriend I have had I genuinley liked the girl and it would be a good 2-3 month "chase" before she would fall for me and then we would be bf and gf. I cant go up to girls at random places and just smooth talk them back to my apartment and tap them. I even have problems talking to girls i like. Im not a ladies man but I have no problem getting the girls i like (most of them). I never did any one liners that knocked them off thier feet but i was persistent and that is really the only thing that has worked for me. my whole life. I guess my question is how do I become the guy who women are attracted to. Where THEY do the chasing. Do all these PUA methods really work in changing .. iono your character? confidence? Im so confused.

I think it helps. IMO it's more to just get you used to talking to random people without thinking or stressing over it than to actually make any progress with those people.

Most people do not talk to or approach strangers during the course of thier day, so people kind of have it ingrained into them not to do so at any time, whether it's on the street during the day or in the club at night.

If you do the 20 person per day approach, it'll get yourself used to talking to people in that way, so when you're out sarging, it just become second nature. You won't even think about it, so they're will be little to no stress, and therefore, no AA.

I know people that are like this without knowing ANYTHING about PUA or any of these techniques, it just comes natural to them. So all my outgoing friends always have people to talk to, and seem to know someone WHEREVER they go.

Some people are born like this, others need to learn it.