David.

Thanks.

That is funny as fuck.

1-0 to you.

Finnese

Ha ha

I feel you are getting the measure of me.

I must admit i have a FLAW.

I care.
Shocking i know.

Outcome dependancy is constantly debated on this site.
I do not suscribe to it at all.

If you REALLY don't give a shit then your are by definition an uncaring ARSEHOLE.

If you say i don't care then you won't care if i Blah blah Piss you off or insult you.
EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING I DON'Y CARE.
Fucking liars.
All of them

I am not going to debate this as its a long and boring process.


The End.

I love the way you have grabbed a little something regarding the military and assumed that my whole game is based on it.
If that were the case GOD help me.

No.

About every 3 months i apply and learn something different.
When you get as old as me you might understand as i am always looking for new stuff to try out.

Your answer regaring the xbox controller is supurb.
And funny. You score a point for that.
By reading a lot of military books lately and old films i have stumbled on a few things that did not make sense when i was younger.
In time i may post some of it.

I will give a brief example.

Some people have an image to protect or are in search of one which is why they are on this site.

They copy Mystery Method etc.

Now you are implying that i go out with military precision and every fucking detail is checked etc.

Most clubs now are decked out in young guys dripping in chick bate or tattoo's or trying to stand correctly etc.

Afc Adam sussed club game out a long time ago as did most people that go out enough.
Just be a part of the 8 strong mixed cool group.
Have fun, generate social proof over a period of time and PRESTO.

I have tried a few things out which is a bit like DOUBLE YOUR DATING.

Except its doubling a few other things which i may debate in time.

And guess what.
No xbox controller needed.

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Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

John, you may or may not have some really great ideas.

The reason why I can't say one way or the other is for several reasons:

One, you talk in really short sentences like this.

Two, you fail to elaborate on aforementioned sentences. For example, you say stuff like,
Great. Question: how can you not subscribe to it all, when it's simply a matter on which you have an opinion? (e.g. "Do you like kiwis?" "I DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THAT AT ALL" "?") See, now there's something that you could elaborate about. Additionally, can you explain WHY you don't subscribe to it. You make a lot of bold statements that you always fail to back up, and by doing so you come across as arrogant. For all I know, you're the humblest guy out there, but you don't show it.

If you just throw out phrases as you are doing right now, no one is going to be able to understand you. Zen koans are short and sweet-- posts about pickup knowledge are not.

In short: be as succinct as possible, but still get your point across.

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AFC Royal


o.k

To put it really BLUNTLY.
I hate people using 3000 words to make a point.
The longer the thread the more subjective it becomes.
The fewer words you use to get your point accross the better.

In time i will elaborate in far greater detail about what point i am trying to make.


Over time say the last 20 years it has become (socially exceptable) to over analize things.
A lot if this comes from america. (and this is not yank bashing but fact)
In the u.k. we seem to love to copy their ideas.????? why ???

People now take their dogs to see a psychatrist for fucks sake.
So many people are always looking for meanings that do not exist.

First an foremost this site is about PULLING women.

Most people want to hear about anything that will aid this hobby.

To be told to be outcome independant is bollocks.
To be told honestly by somebody you trust to say get a haircut or work on conversation skills is helpful.

Finally.

People want to NAIL tens FACT.

ANY NEW MATERIAL ETC is what people REALLY WANT.

To many people on this site are starting to sound like your own fucking parents.

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Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

Hobbit.

Yes.

Look at my latest thread as evidence.

It takes time to construct good , structured stuff.
I don't intend to stay on this site for to long so we will see on the quality of my threads in the future.

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Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

What is pickup if not subjective? We are dealing with emotions, which are things that are not nearly so similar to logic as we would like.

I would say that much more of pickup is subjective rather than objective. Which is the reason for the "3000" word posts. Also, just saying, you don't have to have super super long posts, but you should lengthen yours at least some. (Newest post on older wingmen was pretty good).
This is the kind of statement that I'm talking about. Honestly, I don't care if you bash America, considering there are certainly a lot of things to bash. But I honestly don't see a rational basis for this.

Perhaps this is the reason you come across as arrogant. You insist on things being objective and clear cut, with very little opinionated grey area. So you're going to have to start providing some backup for your statements otherwise it just comes across badly.
I don't get the comparison. If you are trying to provide backup for your earlier statement, that's good, but I simply differ in opinion here. To be outcome independent is simply acceptance of the present moment.

But that's something to be debated in other posts.

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All of you guys are dumbasses lmao.
This guy asked how to get the perfect 10.

Instead of searching for a way to win your holy grail, you fucked up and wanted to argue with him.


DISCUSSS STRATEGY!

the whole game is strategy.

So let me put this thread back in order:

Show value, make her admit her value, if her value always tries to outtop yours, neg her. Bravery is needed to tell her to f off when she thinks shes to awesome for you. Connect, show respect, advance kino, show her that nobody else is better than you, play with her head and just ignore her for a couple of days, come back, play it off interesting, kiss close, neg her for not being so awesome just for the beauty, make her work on herself, f close, build relationship, get fucked in the marriage game, dont let her run away with the kids, hire a hitman , run with her shit, go to mexico and drink a corona while eating a ceviche. Play games with latina chicks about your whole life in the secret services and that your being searched by the CIA. The end.

To your first post. First you confuse rashness with bravery, strategy is good but these words are not good enough to describe how to get a perfect 10.

How do you get your perfect 10: merge bravery and strategy and you get confidence. What is confidence knowing what you want, when you want, and how to get it. This is the merging of strategy and bravery, strat when you need it, brave when you need it.


But to be true to myself I really think...

Call it victory if you wish to feel you conquered this 10
call it fun if u wish to feel you had fun with this girl
Call it plain sex if it just felt like sex.

If some guy bangs some 10 what he thinks about it is up to him, bc each man lives to his own morals and virtues.
-Nietzsche

Nietzeche sums it up. A man can only judge what is victory/good to himself as long as he is his own master, if there is such victory at all.

Ohhh I get it now...

He wanted advice on how to fuck a girl!?!

Oh well for blokes fucking sake, why didn't you say that. What the fuck is up with all the weird analogies and shit. Military, victory, America, blah fucking blah. You write your posts like Owen Tyler Durden on acid.

To reap the pussy you must not work for the pussy. There are no clear cut strategies to get the pussy or methods that gaurantee the pussy.

The pussy comes when you do not want the pussy.

The pussy comes when you don't work for the pussy.

The pussy comes when girls realize you are a guy worth fucking. And every "MAN" is worth fucking. So be a man.

And lastly, you must make clear to the girl that you want her pussy. Not need her pussy.

Outcome independency is not being an uncalibrated asshole to every social situation.

Being outcome independent is knowing that regardless of whatever happens, it will not effect you. That your sense of self is strong, and no external opinions and forces can whither that. This falls into the category of being a man.

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He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still.
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John, bro. Go for a bike ride, sit by the river or something (but try ot to jump in), you sound like you need to chill out a bit.

I can understand why you might be sounding a little on edge, it can be annoying when people don't understand/agree with your ideas. Just try your best to understand them.

You seem to be taking things from one extreme to the next. Or at least misunderstanding the real meaning behind them.

For example, the whole 'don't care' thing, you seem to be misunderstanding it, as a LOT of people do, they end up acting careless and wreckless and other such things. There's a difference between needing and wanting, and then theres wanting and wantlessness, Where you want something and you put the things in place to let that happen, but you are not worried about whether it happens or not.

I agree, it can be hard to understand at times and sounds like people suggesting to 'not give a fuck' or 'dont care about shit', which in essence, is kinda true, but I think those two ways of saying it gives off the wrong idea of how to do so, which I think is the idea you seem to think everyone is suggesting.



What's all this 1-0 oh have a point, business about? I don't know about anyone else, but I'm on your side here, I'm not against you, I'm trying to help you. It's not a battle, bruh.




Love

~Finesse

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Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Somebodeeeeeeeeeeee.

I like it.

Yes, you win. YOU TOTALLY GET IT.

I wanted to discuss strategy or have somebody understand the post and what it means in the context of the statement

Everybody else wants to thread bash,hijack it,feel the need to educate me on the meaning of the TAO.

Rock star Dallas.

If i had a dollar for ever thing LAO TZU said i would be rich.
The best when it comes to making a BRIEF POINT.
MY TYPE OF GUY.

I bet he could say a bit about pulling women.

Finnese

I feel your pain.
You feel you need to help me as a fellow brother who may well need to chill out as you put it.
What this has to do with the original thread only GOD knows.
I will pray later and ask for guidance.
Also i will pray for you so you are able to keep giving well needed advice on this forum.


Finally.

The strategy for getting the 10.


I stumbled on something a long time ago which took me many years to figure out.

1. I could not figure out WHY i was better at somethings than others.

Example.

Natural ability GOT IN THE FUCKING WAY.
High quality women used to pull me.

I got used to that and 15 years later, a lot heavier un not so attractive nobody wanted to know.??????????????




My own natural abilities for sport made me a natural at most sporting activities.
Eventally as it became easy i gave up on it, put on weight blah blah.

I had live to easy.

Also i realised something else.

My friends who i grew up with who had it tough are now dead, on the dole, junkies or VERY SUCCESSFUL.

Dead or very successful.

O.k.

What am i on about.

The people who HAVE to work FOR their CAR look after THEM.
A person who is given everything,who has not earned it KNOWS THAT.

The 10 who does not have to WORK for her MAN gets a CHODE.
The 10 who thinks she is lucky to have you................get it.

The man who WORKS HARD for his money IS DRIVEN BY DESIRE.
The man who got his job through FAMILY is HATED. (He would struggle in the real world if he had to fend for himself, but he would have pride)

Basically the best STRATEGY here is FUCKING DESIRE.

If you want to loose weight DO IT.
If you want to have a better job GET ONE.

This site talks about mindsets without explaining things in the right context.

Another Example.

The good do not praise the talented to prevent ENVY.
Very wise indeed.

But if you are young and talented and have never had a good word said to you about your work in your job now you KNOW WHY.

If you want to get the 10.

Be fucking driven man.

NOT JUST TO GET HER BUT EVERTHING.

Get to know her brother.
Befriend him.
Get him to tell his hot sister about his new great friend.
Get that guy to get the 10 FOR YOU.

And always be completely FUCKING different to the masses.

If you are a geek THEN BE SUPER FUCKING GEEK.
Don't try to be something you are not cut out to be.

Now this is the killer POINT.

THE REASON STYLE BECAME SO GOOD AT PUA IS SIMPLE.

He wanted it so badly, i mean really desperate.
He found out who were the best in the GAme and hung out with all of them.

Total devotion.


Total fucking DESIRE.

HE WANTED 10'S

HE GOT 10'S

Why.

The strategy was desire .


If you really want something YOU WILL GET IT.
Only if you are interested in it.

If you think that by being confident and TRYING THE OLD WANNA FUCK LINE at the end of the night COOL.

be brave, its a numbers game after all.

I am tired so thats all for now.

But remember.

If you are really interested in something you are far more likely to be succesful at it.

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john

He just did.

David and Finesse are bossing it up here. Apparently the "~" mean that you're really good.

In any case, John, listen to those two. They both agree on at least one point: you have to be outcome independent. At the moment you are insisting that this makes you an uncaring arsehole.

I would disagree with that. But the point is, if you really want to consistently pull the 10's, you're going to have to at least reconcile your beliefs, if not change them completely.

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Nothing to do with your original post, everything to do with your following posts.

The only thing that pains me is how you misspell my name




In regards to you talking about people working for things.

There is only one good thing I've heard in relation to that. I was discussing uncertainty about my success with someone, and they told me how, the 'pretty people' have confidence because they've been treated in that way and expect it because they have been done so all their life, it's been handed to them. The difference between ugly person who has that same confidence, and the pretty person with that confidence, is people can tell the ugly person has had to build that from scratch, and can therefore do so again if required, but they have no clue if the pretty person would be able to get it back it they lost it.

Not sure if that's relevant to your last post or not. But I feel it may be beneficial for people.

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....