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you look just like my 16 yr old cousin, but I have a feeling you might be a bit older than her, right?"
That's good, I'll definitely use that sometime

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Day 8
Topics: Rooting, Time Constraints, and Texting

I've opened 5 people so far today, and the cool thing is that for 2 of them I didn't even think about anything before I did it. For example, I went to the pool to tan a bit this morning and I was the only one there for a while. Then an HB7 came and sat 3 chairs away from me (keep in mind there were about 150 other places to choose from, this pool is massive). Right away I said "How are there not more people here right now?" (meaning the weather was nice and I was surprised)
Her: "I know! I guess a few clouds make people think the weather is shitty."
Blah blah blah, good small talk but no close because she was still about 8 or 9 feet away, and I couldn't really stop laying down and walk over to her because that would just feel creepy to me.

I am already pretty good at rooting, which was part of the challenge today. Rooting is basically just giving a quick excuse why you are opening her, and I realized it is already built into my usual opener. However, I do have to get better at giving false time constraints. I always forget to for some reason, until the opener is delivered. Today I lost two sets because of this.
Me: "Hey let me ask you something...blah blah opener"
HB's: They give me their opinion, etc
Oh no, I forgot a time constraint
Me: "So I have to get going, but..."
HB's "Okay! See ya!"
Dammit!
So I have to remember to give the false time constraint before the opener, and that problem should be fixed.

I had a really awkward set today. I was crossing the street, and I noticed an HB walking behind me out of the corner of my eye. I looked behind me and give my opener, but she seems really disinterested. I keep a really high energy going, and she invests a little bit by giving her opinion, but she still seems kind of put off by me. This would usually be fine and I would just eject, but we're walking the same way down the street and there is no where that I can just leave to but the direction we are already walking. So we walk really close in silence for a while, with me about 2 steps ahead of her, then I finally turn down the first side street after a good 45 secs of silence.

I just sent a text to the girl I number closed yesterday. It said:
"Hey [HB] it's [Chopper], I met you while walking yesterday. What's the most fun thing you've done since I saw you? You'll never guess what I did last night!"

As new as I am to regular game, I am literally BRAND NEW to text game, so we'll see if this works or not. I actually do have a really interesting story from last night if she texts me back. We shall see!

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How old are you man? Young college? I live in Austin too, but I'm a senior in high school. Really good stuff, it looks good. Keep up the good work.


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How old are you man? Young college? I live in Austin too, but I'm a senior in high school. Really good stuff, it looks good. Keep up the good work.
I'm 23, graduated college last year. Thanks for the support!

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Day 9
Topics: Learning about the daygame locations, Focusing on sticking points

So the past four days, I have walked the same route around the UT campus and opened sets along that route. I learned something important today- that route is completely dead on Fridays. I did not open a single set for an hour, and I only saw two possible ones the entire time. One was a 3 set with two of the girls on their cell phone, the other was an Asian lone wolf. From now on, I will probably go to the mall or to Whole Foods on Fridays, because the campus was a ghost town.

Now, I read some good advice today and I will be taking it to heart tonight and the rest of the times that I go out to practice game. The advice was to only focus on implementing little bits of new information at a time. This is very, very important to me because I often get lost in all of the information that is available. I have the 9 dvd's that come with Ultimate Natural Game, as well as the first two months of mPUA University, and the range of things that are covered on those dvd's is very cool, but I have to realize that some of it is way too advanced for me right now.
For example:
- One of the discs that I watched recently spends a lot of time talking about Instant Kiss Closes (where you literally just walk up and kiss a girl before saying anything to her). This is not a sticking point that I have gotten to yet, so this time was basically wasted.
- Many dvd's talk about extreme social proof. This is clearly an excellent idea, but I am starting from the VERY beginning, in a city where I didn't know anybody a week ago. So, while entourage game is a great goal to have in mind, this disc does not focus on what I need right now.
- Etc etc

What DO I need right now? Well, I am getting over my approach anxiety, but it is still there a little bit. Sometimes I still make excuses not to approach (I talked about this two days ago I think) like "She looks busy" or "She has her iPod in." So while I am much more willing to approach under good conditions, I need to get better at approaching when it is not an ideal set.

The next major hurdle for me is being able to go for the number close. I have been in Austin for 9 days, and I have only asked ONE girl for her number. As Hobbit pointed out, I was using the StyleLife challenge as an excuse not to go for a number close ("I'm only supposed to compliment her, nothing more..."). I stopped doing that. Now I have been trying to read the girls' reactions to my opener, and yesterday all 5 sets seemed pretty uninterested (for reasons that were my fault and that I mentioned in yesterday's post). Two days ago, one set hooked pretty well, so I went for the n-close after 1 minute and got it. I guess you could say I have a 100% success rate of number closing when I actually ask the girl for her number :lol:

Since the moral of this story is to be more focused on what I need to fix right now, here are the two things that I will be focusing on over the next 4 or 5 days:
1. Stop only approaching ideal sets. Do not make excuses not to approach people who are doing homework, look busy, are listening to their iPod, etc.
2. Read the set's reaction to me, and if I am getting positive energy, go for the number close. If I am getting negative (or uninterested) energy, figure out what I did wrong so I can elicit better responses next time.

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Keep up the good work man. Ive enjoyed reading your little blog you've created here. What I really like is your attitude seems very positive and your open to all sorts of input. If you continue at this pace I think you'll be very successful at this stuff.

I agree with the advice you were given in only adding little bits of stuff to your repetoire each time you go out. When I first started I kept over loading my head with tons of info and it caused me to over think in the field.

Anyways, your on the right path. If I could give you any advice it would just be to enjoy the process and not worry about the the end result. The results will come with time and practice. I agree with Hobbitt that you should push all interactions as far as you can. However, if you dont get a number close dont worry about it. Right now I believe you should just be focused on improving the skill. Again the results will come.

Keep it up!


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I've read a book on game design and while reading it, I figured some shit applies on most other things in life. Like failing. To quote the book:


There's a saying among jugglers: 'If you aren't dropping, you aren't learning. And if you aren't learning, you aren't a juggler.'[...]



[...]Will you fail sometimes? Yes you will. You will fail again, and again, and again. You will fail many, many more times than you will suceed. But these failures are your only path to success.

You're making up excuses (and honestly, so do I sometimes), but stop that. If you get an idea that you think is stupid -- do it. Have fun. Nothing else.

Since you're such a long way from home you should take the opportunity to act way out of your comfort zone. I'm rooting for ya!


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Night 9
Topics: Sarging alone at night

It is not easy to go out alone. I didn't have much trouble opening people tonight...in fact I'd say I opened around 20 sets. But with the few sets that went well (a couple lasted about 5 minutes), I didn't have a way of making them forget their agenda and adopt mine. For example, I had a great 4 set going (3 girls, 1 guy) and I talked to them for at least five minutes. I used the false time constraint "I have to go meet up with my friends...", so it got to a weird point where it would have been easy to say "Hey, come hang out with my friends and I"...if only I wasn't out alone! I also can't just tag along with them, because I've already said I was meeting my friends, and it would probably be creepy anyway.

That was the main problem that I had tonight. One way to help out the situation is to enter a bar and talk to EVERYBODY. I was really intimidated by this at first, but I ended up doing it at the last two bars. I didn't talk to everyone, but probably 75% of people that I passed. I mainly said "GO USA TOMORROW IN THE WORLD CUP!!!" Then got a round of high fives, had a quick conversation about soccer (which I couldn't give a shit about), then went on to the next group and did it again. After doing it at two bars, I noticed my energy level was much higher and I felt more comfortable.

Here are a couple of other situations that came about during my night:
Situation 1. There is a giant biker rally going in Austin right now. I probably saw at least 500 bikes tonight, so I'm talking massive. There were bikers in every bar and club. So at one point I opened a two set on the street of very feminine girls and said "You two must be bikers, aren't you?"
HBs: "Oh yeah, don't we look like it blah blah blah."
Me: "I think this is the only time where there can be a bearded 60 year old guy in the club and it's OK."
HB(A): "That actually happens way more than you think."
Me: "Really? I guess I don't have to pay attention. What do you do when people like that creep on you in the club?"
HB(A): "Same thing I do when people creep on me in the street." (She's talking about me)
Me: "Haha, but I'm clearly not a creeper, and you're still talking to me."
Her Friend: "NOT ANYMORE" *grabs her and walks the other direction*

Situation 2. I was walking behind a 3 set (2 girls, 1 guy) and the girls kept stopping and dancing right in my way (this is on the sidewalk). The guy looked to me and said "You must be getting very pissed at them right now."
Me: "Haha, you just need to control them better."
HB7 turns around, notices me for the first time, and goes "WOW...You look hot!" as she strokes my chest. This turned into a great set that lasted about 5 minutes, and then her husband came up and joined us, lol.

Situation 3. I destroyed my shirt with sweat stains, and I got asked about it a few times. Every time we laughed and joked about it, but I think it's a big turn off, so I'm gonna have to start wearing darker shirts or something. Does anybody else have this problem? Here's some pics...my back is almost see-through.
Chest:
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee35 ... CF0341.jpg
Back:
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee35 ... CF0340.jpg


All in all I am happy with tonight. I was able to keep a couple of the conversations going way past the opener (which I couldn't do last week), and I twice I walked into the bar and opened almost everyone in sight. I still have to get more comfortable doing night game alone though.

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dude. i don't know if you will get this.
but.

PUA IS ABOUT NOT BEING A PUA

its about not caring about what women think, and doing what you really want and having that as your drive. so yeah, continue your approahces and all, but i recomend you go with your drive and your instinct, and not one what the books say : )

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inspirational stuff man - i am following the stylelife challenge right now too so its helpful for me to compare my experiences with yours on a daily basis. keep up the good work!


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Yeah that chick in situation 1 was a bitch. :-/ But as for situation 3, you definitely need to wear undershirts. HUGE problem. I'm pretty sure the sweat thing would be a pretty big turnoff. But if you wear undershirts and the problem still happens then I would just crack jokes about someone pouring water or alcohol all over you.


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Situation 3. I destroyed my shirt with sweat stains, and I got asked about it a few times. Every time we laughed and joked about it, but I think it's a big turn off, so I'm gonna have to start wearing darker shirts or something. Does anybody else have this problem? Here's some pics...my back is almost see-through.
Chest:
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Back:
[link]
Hard to say...maybe try a darker shirt or a nice tshirt. Or thicker material. I've never had that problem, but then again I don't live in texas ;) You could try bringing a couple tshirts, and if anyone asks just tell em you're trying to camouflage from the police since you stole a pack of gum (or something else that no one would consider stealing...).


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Night 10
Topics: Frame control

No sarging tonight because I made one of those dumb mistakes that you only make once. I got in my car, drove downtown, searched a long time for parking, walked halfway to the bars and realized I forgot my wallet/ID at home.

It gave me a good chance to catch up on a great book I've been reading :wink:

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For those who need that laid out more clearly: Frame control is how you react to things. I could have been pissed off, said my night was ruined, and complained about forgetting my stuff after spending so long to get ready, drive, park, etc. but instead I said it's a mistake I will only make once and that it gave me an opportunity to come back and get some good reading in. Next time you want to get pissed about something, try framing it differently!

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Great outlook on things. It was a mistake, you learned from it and now you're a better person because of that.


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Night 10
Topics: Frame control

No sarging tonight because I made one of those dumb mistakes that you only make once. I got in my car, drove downtown, searched a long time for parking, walked halfway to the bars and realized I forgot my wallet/ID at home.

It gave me a good chance to catch up on a great book I've been reading :wink:
For me personally, I wouldn't have seen that as a mistake at all. I would have walked around a bit and done street pick up to number close a few girls. I believe everything happens for a reason and every "mistake" can be a fresh opportunity.


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