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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:49 am 
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What's up everyone? Glad to be a part of these forums, seems like a great place to get started for me.

Let me lay down my situation for you: 20 years old, starting college in the fall, decent/good looking guy, in shape, very chill job that makes great money for a guy like me.

My girl problems: never had any sexual experiences, 0 gfs, 0 kisses etc. etc. I was a loser in high school and never went to any parties, had few friends that I didn't hang out with very often.

Fast forward to now: I can talk to people now[waaay better than I was in highschool], most people think I'm a really cool guy although I don't hang out with anybody[I kinda f'ed up with the law as highschool ended for me], but I'm ready to put that behind me and ditch the loner mentality. I can talk to most cool guys really well and befriend them easily, it's girls in general I'm having trouble with. Sometimes I just talk about random stuff with them, but also I fail in sexual talk and kinoing them in any way.

About a month ago I asked a girl out at work that I never talked to and she said yes and I got her number, only to be rejected two days later. Apparently she's going to college away from home so she didn't think a relationship was a good idea. I believe that was an excuse and credit her not wanting to date me after she said yes due to my lack of game and making her uncomfortable. I accepted her offer to be friends simply because I've never had many girl friends, and was texting her a little bit but I stopped because I was always the one initiating the texts.

I feel its time to move on from this bitch mindset and become a man. I'm ready to get into the game, I'm just unsure as to how to take my first steps considering I've got almost 0 experience with women. Sure I can talk to them at times but not the way I want to.

Now that you guys are aware of my situation, do you think any self help materials[books, dvds etc] would be a good idea for me? If so, what ones? Again, the only real reason I would be considered a 'loser' is because I'm a loner and my lack of experience with girls. I don't want you guys to get the impression that I'm antisocial because I can't talk to people, quite the opposite many people have offered me to hang out with them and I decline. I'm through with that though.

Thanks for any replies/comments. I'll probably start a journal in the journal area pretty soon if anyone's interested in following my journey. I've got a ton of goals PU and non-PU related so it's gonna be a fun ride for me.


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One book that that I think is great is "NLP: The New Technology of Achievement". Great book for game, great book for self-help.


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Thanks I'll check it out


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Wasn't bothered to read the entire thing but I can tll you this: everything that's in books and whatever, you can find for free on the internet. Look through the forums and there's really usefull posts etc. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link this but seductionbase.com has helped me alot aswell.

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What's up everyone? Glad to be a part of these forums, seems like a great place to get started for me.

Let me lay down my situation for you: 20 years old, starting college in the fall, decent/good looking guy, in shape, very chill job that makes great money for a guy like me.

My girl problems: never had any sexual experiences, 0 gfs, 0 kisses etc. etc. I was a loser in high school and never went to any parties, had few friends that I didn't hang out with very often.

Fast forward to now: I can talk to people now[waaay better than I was in highschool], most people think I'm a really cool guy although I don't hang out with anybody[I kinda f'ed up with the law as highschool ended for me], but I'm ready to put that behind me and ditch the loner mentality. I can talk to most cool guys really well and befriend them easily, it's girls in general I'm having trouble with. Sometimes I just talk about random stuff with them, but also I fail in sexual talk and kinoing them in any way.

About a month ago I asked a girl out at work that I never talked to and she said yes and I got her number, only to be rejected two days later. Apparently she's going to college away from home so she didn't think a relationship was a good idea. I believe that was an excuse and credit her not wanting to date me after she said yes due to my lack of game and making her uncomfortable. I accepted her offer to be friends simply because I've never had many girl friends, and was texting her a little bit but I stopped because I was always the one initiating the texts.

I feel its time to move on from this bitch mindset and become a man. I'm ready to get into the game, I'm just unsure as to how to take my first steps considering I've got almost 0 experience with women. Sure I can talk to them at times but not the way I want to.

Now that you guys are aware of my situation, do you think any self help materials[books, dvds etc] would be a good idea for me? If so, what ones? Again, the only real reason I would be considered a 'loser' is because I'm a loner and my lack of experience with girls. I don't want you guys to get the impression that I'm antisocial because I can't talk to people, quite the opposite many people have offered me to hang out with them and I decline. I'm through with that though.

Thanks for any replies/comments. I'll probably start a journal in the journal area pretty soon if anyone's interested in following my journey. I've got a ton of goals PU and non-PU related so it's gonna be a fun ride for me.
Sounds like you've had some improvement since high school, which is really good to hear.

About self-improvement material, I highly recommend it. Anything you can find. There are the obvious pick-up related ones, like 'The Game' (which is more of a memoir) and "Rules of the Game", but there are tons of others that aren't directly related to pick-up that have just as much if not MORE value.

I am currently reading "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and I love it. It was written over 70 years ago, but has contemporary and relatable content, is organized extremely well, and has already changed the way I interact with people. It's only 10$ at any book store.

There are tons of others and I recommend you pick up whatever you can. Everything helps!

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What's up everyone? Glad to be a part of these forums, seems like a great place to get started for me.

Let me lay down my situation for you: 20 years old, starting college in the fall, decent/good looking guy, in shape, very chill job that makes great money for a guy like me.

My girl problems: never had any sexual experiences, 0 gfs, 0 kisses etc. etc. I was a loser in high school and never went to any parties, had few friends that I didn't hang out with very often.

Fast forward to now: I can talk to people now[waaay better than I was in highschool], most people think I'm a really cool guy although I don't hang out with anybody[I kinda f'ed up with the law as highschool ended for me], but I'm ready to put that behind me and ditch the loner mentality. I can talk to most cool guys really well and befriend them easily, it's girls in general I'm having trouble with. Sometimes I just talk about random stuff with them, but also I fail in sexual talk and kinoing them in any way.

About a month ago I asked a girl out at work that I never talked to and she said yes and I got her number, only to be rejected two days later. Apparently she's going to college away from home so she didn't think a relationship was a good idea. I believe that was an excuse and credit her not wanting to date me after she said yes due to my lack of game and making her uncomfortable. I accepted her offer to be friends simply because I've never had many girl friends, and was texting her a little bit but I stopped because I was always the one initiating the texts.

I feel its time to move on from this bitch mindset and become a man. I'm ready to get into the game, I'm just unsure as to how to take my first steps considering I've got almost 0 experience with women. Sure I can talk to them at times but not the way I want to.

Now that you guys are aware of my situation, do you think any self help materials[books, dvds etc] would be a good idea for me? If so, what ones? Again, the only real reason I would be considered a 'loser' is because I'm a loner and my lack of experience with girls. I don't want you guys to get the impression that I'm antisocial because I can't talk to people, quite the opposite many people have offered me to hang out with them and I decline. I'm through with that though.

Thanks for any replies/comments. I'll probably start a journal in the journal area pretty soon if anyone's interested in following my journey. I've got a ton of goals PU and non-PU related so it's gonna be a fun ride for me.
Sounds like you've had some improvement since high school, which is really good to hear.

About self-improvement material, I highly recommend it. Anything you can find. There are the obvious pick-up related ones, like 'The Game' (which is more of a memoir) and "Rules of the Game", but there are tons of others that aren't directly related to pick-up that have just as much if not MORE value.

I am currently reading "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and I love it. It was written over 70 years ago, but has contemporary and relatable content, is organized extremely well, and has already changed the way I interact with people. It's only 10$ at any book store.

There are tons of others and I recommend you pick up whatever you can. Everything helps!
Heh, I actually have that book. My workforce paid me $250 to take that 3 day course last june, but I've never picked it up. I'll see what it's like thanks! Any other specifics you can recommend to me?


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What's up everyone? Glad to be a part of these forums, seems like a great place to get started for me.

Let me lay down my situation for you: 20 years old, starting college in the fall, decent/good looking guy, in shape, very chill job that makes great money for a guy like me.

My girl problems: never had any sexual experiences, 0 gfs, 0 kisses etc. etc. I was a loser in high school and never went to any parties, had few friends that I didn't hang out with very often.

Fast forward to now: I can talk to people now[waaay better than I was in highschool], most people think I'm a really cool guy although I don't hang out with anybody[I kinda f'ed up with the law as highschool ended for me], but I'm ready to put that behind me and ditch the loner mentality. I can talk to most cool guys really well and befriend them easily, it's girls in general I'm having trouble with. Sometimes I just talk about random stuff with them, but also I fail in sexual talk and kinoing them in any way.

About a month ago I asked a girl out at work that I never talked to and she said yes and I got her number, only to be rejected two days later. Apparently she's going to college away from home so she didn't think a relationship was a good idea. I believe that was an excuse and credit her not wanting to date me after she said yes due to my lack of game and making her uncomfortable. I accepted her offer to be friends simply because I've never had many girl friends, and was texting her a little bit but I stopped because I was always the one initiating the texts.

I feel its time to move on from this bitch mindset and become a man. I'm ready to get into the game, I'm just unsure as to how to take my first steps considering I've got almost 0 experience with women. Sure I can talk to them at times but not the way I want to.

Now that you guys are aware of my situation, do you think any self help materials[books, dvds etc] would be a good idea for me? If so, what ones? Again, the only real reason I would be considered a 'loser' is because I'm a loner and my lack of experience with girls. I don't want you guys to get the impression that I'm antisocial because I can't talk to people, quite the opposite many people have offered me to hang out with them and I decline. I'm through with that though.

Thanks for any replies/comments. I'll probably start a journal in the journal area pretty soon if anyone's interested in following my journey. I've got a ton of goals PU and non-PU related so it's gonna be a fun ride for me.
Sounds like you've had some improvement since high school, which is really good to hear.

About self-improvement material, I highly recommend it. Anything you can find. There are the obvious pick-up related ones, like 'The Game' (which is more of a memoir) and "Rules of the Game", but there are tons of others that aren't directly related to pick-up that have just as much if not MORE value.

I am currently reading "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and I love it. It was written over 70 years ago, but has contemporary and relatable content, is organized extremely well, and has already changed the way I interact with people. It's only 10$ at any book store.

There are tons of others and I recommend you pick up whatever you can. Everything helps!
Heh, I actually have that book. My workforce paid me $250 to take that 3 day course last june, but I've never picked it up. I'll see what it's like thanks! Any other specifics you can recommend to me?
Yeah, its one of those books most people have floating around on the shelves that they never read. Try it out though, and really read it. It has some amazing advice.

Some others:

- The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
- Psycho Cybernetics (haven't read it, but heard great things)
- The Power of Now (same story, haven't read it)

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