Shit testing What is it?
Women will often test guys.
It's important to know how to deal with feminine testing. This is one of the BASICS: Once you demonstrate to a woman that she can manipulate you, she loses all sexual attraction for you and designates you as a PAWN. You MUST retain control and be the MAN.
Why do women test men?
Women test men for all sorts of reasons, and it’s mostly an unconscious process. Attractive women have a lot of options, and prefer men who are STRONG OF CHARACTER. If you were an attractive woman being chased by hundreds of guys, how would you go about eliminating the losers? You’d TEST them, in subtle ways that test for strength and personality. If you did this on a regular enough basis, this behavior would become unconscious and automatic. Women will ALWAYS test you! Deal with it, learn how to handle it, and move on.
Why is it GOOD to be shit-tested?
The more attracted a woman is to a man, the more she’ll test him. Women don’t go up to 90 year-old men and say “You jerk!” and playfully punch them in the arm. They don’t go up to some horribly disfigured guy in a wheelchair and say “You think you’re hot shit, don’t you?” They do this to the men they’re attracted to! A woman is usually nice and polite with people she’s not attracted to, as social conventions dictate her to be. In fact, if a woman is being polite and overly nice with you, it’s a bad sign. But if she’s testing you by calling you a jerk or an ass, it’s a sign that you’ve aroused some interest in her, and she wants to see if it’s justified.
When a chick does or says something which is meant to judge the reaction or response from a male, whether the test is done consciously or unconsciously. The specific words of the response are less meaningful than the method and mode (attitude) of the response.
The purpose of a shit test isn’t to annoy a guy or test his patience. It’s not done to be negative. A chick, particularly a good looking one, has many guys throughout her life chasing her for attention. She must deploy mechanisms which quickly test a guy to judge his “worthiness”, to test his mettle. The most efficient way for her to do this is to spring forth what are seemingly crazy questions without real purpose or to act in a way which seems incomprehensible. This is different than chick logic in that shit testing has a purpose. That purpose is to separate the men from the boys. And not just ANY men, but men worthy of depositing their seed into her feminine form.
This may seem like an odd way of going about things but, you have to look at it from the woman’s perspective. If she were to simply tell a guy how he should act or what he should say in order for her arousal to continue or escalate, she has no way of determining if he’s responding in a natural way or in a way just to please her. That is why believing what a woman says in a conscious way versus what she reacts and responds to is never a good idea (if your idea is to seduce her). She has to deploy a means which tests a man’s natural state, and determine whether he is saying something just to please her (“just to get in her pants” = “indeterminate worthiness”) or if he his own man who is in control f himself. A man in control of himself is worthy to be in control of their continued interaction. A man who “fails” her shit test is not worthy of further interactions.
How to pass shit-tests?
Ignoring:
Most tests can be dealt with just by ignoring them. You DO NOT have to take every communication seriously and respond to it. So if a test is given (let’s say she calls you a jerk), you can just smirk and continue your conversation as if it had never been said. The same principle can be applied when someone is getting overly emotional or dramatic with you.
Using humor: Applying humor in testing situations can be effective as well.
Posts about Shit-Tests:
[Dissecting shit test passing measures] by TylerDurden
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Shit Test Answers:
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OK some guys still aren't getting this, so a little bit of review.
The term "shit test" is a blanket term for several things that can happen.
As far as I know, they all revolve around the chick trying to break her own
state. I'm not sure if its subconscious or intentional, or if they
consciousless try to cause trouble because something on a
biological/subconscious level compels them to do so (same way that we're
compelled to PU and close chicks).
Some people theorize that its a way of constantly testing the male to see if
he's alpha, or something to that effect.
Anyway, the point is that the ONLY ways to pass a shit test are to PREVENT her
from breaking her own state.
During the course of the pickup and relationship, the chick will try to RESIST
by intentionally breaking HER OWN STATE. It's almost hard to believe that they
even enjoy sex as much as us, when they do shit like this.. But really, they
just don't want to get sexed by losers, so I don't blame them.
OK, so all ways to pass a shit test revolve around the same thing: PREVENTING
THE CHICK FROM BREAKING HER OWN STATE.
So let's look back at my old post on this, just in case you guys can't remember
it. If you remember it, then skip down to the next section:
Options: How to pass a shit test
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1) DYD Style: The answer she wants, followed by something sarcastic. HB: "Where
were you last night", PUA: "At home all night thinking about you........... but
then I got bored and called over 10 strippers".... this way is VERY consistent,
because it plays on her EMOTIONS. It DISARMS her anger initially - with the
answer she wants, but SAVES you from being a bitch by following with sarcasm.
2) 50's movie style (like in John Wayne films): FUCK HER RIGHT THERE _H_A_R_D_,
or kiss her etc.. VERY effective method.
3) Imitate her tonality, facial animations, and bodylanguage. HB:
"Where-were-you-last-night", PUA: "With-my-other-girl-friend-last-night" (good
to follow with a kiss right there)
4) Withdraw: If its THAT BAD of an infraction, just withdraw. This can convey
that you have other GFs or can at least get them. ie: Although I LIKE you, I
don't need you, and you are replacable.
5) Push her through more states: Just ignore the comment, and bust out some ASF
stuff (patterns, stories, etc) to put her into the state you want her in.
6) Utter sarcasm: Stick your tongue out at her, and go pppffftttt... and start
tickling her.... etc
7) NOT A GOOD WAY: Hit her. I would personally NEVER hit a chick for ANY
reason, but I am posting this for TECHNICALITY, on the account that I am trying
to push a certain point. (and unfortunately, yes, certain girls -often LSE-
stay with guys who hit them, and it works to pass the shit test.. very sad
phenomenon)
Notice that all of these ways DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE her shit test directly.
They just play on her EMOTIONS.
DIRECTLY answering a shit test will FAIL YOU EVERY TIME. A direct answer pisses
her off MORE, whether she realizes it or not.
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OK now to the meat of this post.
When the chicks SHIT TEST you, you can only pass it by preventing them from
breaking their own state.
They do this shit to me ALL THE TIME. They TRY SO HARD to break their state,
so that they can resist your advances.
They'll do shit like:
-"are you a player?"
-"I bet you've done this with hundreds of girls"
-"where were you last night?"
-"is that your pickupline??? do you plan this???" -or- "did you bring that
notepad just for this gimmick to PU girls??"
-"you're funny" -or- "you're so confident" (tough to field cause you can't tell
if they're serious or possibly questioning your intentions)
-"We're going to have sex" (when chicks go GM on you, ANY variation.. "you're
hot" etc)
-"We're NOT going to have sex"
-"I'm fat"
-"What do you do for a living?"
-"How old are you?"
-"You're too young"
-"What's your sign?"
-"What are you taking at school?"
-"Don't blame the dog/kid/whatever"
-"blah blah blah" (chick talks TOO MUCH, and you are supplicating by listening)
Alright, so let's break these down.. Some of these I remember learning from
CPowles and others:
ST: "are you a pleyer"
WHY: She's trying to make you EXPLAIN yourself, which she KNOWS will aggrevate
her - as ALL logical answers do - so she can put up more LMR.
A1: "don't hate the player, hate the game"
A2: "what is it about players that turn you on so much?"
A3: "yeah, I play sport"
A4: "players play with people's emotions and isn't genuine" (turn it around on
her so that she's accusing you of faking your whole interaction, to make her
feel bad)
EFFECT: A1 is funny, gets her laughing and breaks upset state. A2 is cocky and
turns her on. A3 highlights the stupidity of the question. A4 puts down the
problems of the chick who is maybe really shy, and is seriously scared
(librians archetypes, etc)
ST: "I bet you've done this with hundreds of girls"
WHY: Same reason as above.
A: "I've done it with thousands"
EFFECT: Shows cockiness, turns her on more. Shows her that you won't bend to
her shit tests.
ST: "where were you last night?"
WHY: She is trying to work
A1: "I stayed at home thinking about you.. But then I got bored and hired 10
strippers"
A2: "chillin' with your sister"
EFFECT: A1 is a BEAUTIFUL way of fielding shit tests. It plays her emotions,
because what it does is gives her the answer she WANTS which calms her down,
and a COCKY/FUNNY answer to make her get turned on and laughing BEFORE she can
realize that what you were saying was bullshit. A2 shows her you won't take
her shit, C&F, turns her on.
ST: "is that your pickupline??? do you plan this???" -or- "did you bring that
notepad just for this gimmick to PU girls??"
WHY: She is trying to block you from picking her up, testing your wit.
A: "yeah, and I even planned to meet a girl with (x-neg that was said EARLIER
on in the sarge) (yeah, I even planned to meet a powerpuff girl tonight /
yeah, I even planned to meet a girl with stuff in her teeth tonight / yeah I
even planned to meet a girl with cute bunny rabbit teeth tonight / yeah I even
planned to meet a girl with lint on her shirt tonight.... etc etc etc WHICHEVER
neg you used)
EFFECT: Shows her that you're smarter than her, and makes her question look
ridiculous.
ST: "you're funny" -or- "you're so confident"
WHY: This is TOUGH to field because you can't tell if its serious or not. Just
field it as a shit test because it cracks her up either way with your C&Fness.
A: "what is it about funny guys that turns you on so much?"
EFFECT: C&F, shows you're alpha.. funny line.. funny guys are smart.
ST: "we're going to have sex" or "you're hot"
WHY: When chicks go GM its because they are hyper-obnoxious attention whores.
A: "respect" (said slyly, CPowles classic)
EFFECT: Show that you're not the type to get all desperate and takes the
compliments seriously. ALSO, show that you don't get UPSET by the comments
either. It shows complete disregard to her obnoxiousness, and is FUNNY (not
insulting) at the same time.
ST: "we're not going to have sex tonight"
WHY: She may want it to "just happen" and is feeling too much like its an
obvious pickup that would make her slutiness obvious. She is also testing to
see your reaction, do you want her ONLY for sex, etc.. She's also trying to
break her own state, as in ALL shit tests.
A: "who said anything about sex? mmmmmmmmmm... guess you've got something on
your mind "
EFFECT: Shows you're funny, and RELAXED... also cocky therefore masculine.
ST: "I'm fat"
WHY: Testing to see if you're a beta pacifier type lame-ass.
A1: "You're enormous"
A2: "mmmmmm... more cushion for the pushin'"
A3: "J-Lo is in the house" (for "my ass is fat"
A4: "You're cuddly like winnie the pooh... ooooooo" (grab her, tickle her)
A5: "Look out Rosie!" (rosie o'donnel)
EFFECT: Highlights the ridiculousness of her comments, shows that you don't
supplicate, cocky therefore alpha.
ST: "What do you do for a living?"
WHY: She is demonstrating that she can SCREEN or QUALIFY you.
A1: "I clone humans"
A2: "I produce (x-trait of hers) fetish porn.. I'm looking for new actresses"
(break into Kooper C&F frames, and pretend that you're a pimp and she's your
latest girl)
A3: "Guess" (HOOP THEORY, make her jump through the hoop first before you tell
her)
EFFECT: Demonstrates to her that you will NOT be screened. Demonstrates
alphaness, because it subtley says "I'm here to sex you, not support you, so it
doesn't matter"
ST: "How old are you?"
WHY: She is qualifying you.
A1: "Guess" (hoop theory, and my answer of choice because age is SOMEWHAT
important sometimes)
A2: x-ridiculous age
EFFECT: Shows her that you will not be qualified, or are so confident that even
if you ignore her stupid qualifications, you're confident that you'll fuck her
anyway.
ST: "You're too young"
WHY: Trying to qualify you, trying to push you back, trying to break her own
state.
A1: "yeah.. I know.. I crawled out of my crib, stole my big brother's ID, and
snuck in here.. does anyone have any diapers??????" (look around FRANTICALLY)
A2: "don't worry.. like.. I won't hold it against you.. I'm not like that"
(said with sympathy)
EFFECT: Makes her laugh, prevents her from putting up resistant emotions.
ST: "What's your sign"
WHY: Qualifying you based on ARBITRARY RIDICULOUS shit.
A1: "Guess" (HOOP THEORY)
EFFECT: Shows her that you will play her game, but she has to play yours as
well. You're still equals, and you'll screen her based on her GUESSING
abilities, guessing an arbitrary thing. 'If you will screen me on something
arbitrary, I'll do it to you'
ST: "What are you taking at school?"
WHY: Possibly screening you for income
A1: "Cotton blending.. mmm.. this shirt looks like 85% cotton" (grabbing her
shirt, stroking her playfully)
A2: "human cloning"
A3: "OK, seriously, you can't tell this to ANYONE.. promise??? ok, seriously??
OK, I know this sounds weird, but I'm actually taking courses on how to shoot
porn" .. wait for her to think you're serious, and start laughing at her.. Good
only for HB9+ usually.
EFFECT: A1 is playful and fun.. A2&3 show her that you will not be qualified.
ST: "Don't blame the dog/kid/whatever" (assuming you DID fuckup, and ACTUALLY
said something mean.. I'm talking STICKY situations here, where you actually
fucked up)
WHY: She is trying to upset herself, because she has de
A: That dog is STUPID!! hahha.. ok you're right" (then KISS her)
EFFECT: Shows her "I am STILL the man, but will admit I fucked up".. At this
point, you may have said something so stupid that you can't cover it with C&F,
so PROTOCOL is to PUSH further by re-enforcing with alpha statements that are
FUNNY, but then admitting she's right.. You kiss her as a REWARD for showing
you.
ST: "blah blah blah" (chick talks TOO MUCH, and you are supplicating by
listening)
WHY: If you listen, you are her girlfriend.
A: Do you have an off switch.. (mock hit her, then kiss her)
EFFECT: Shows you won't be a drama queen, controls her emotions with first a
mock-hit (bring her DOWN) and then a kiss (bring her UP).. Fucks with her
emotions, makes you unpredictable, turns her on.
Notice that ALL of these involve the chick subconsiously/consciously trying to
BREAK HER OWN STATE. But by pumping her with a DIFFERENT emotion (humour,
C&F/alphaness/therfore turning her on, tickling her, kissing her/passion, etc)
you PREVENT her from breaking her own state.
You are DERAILING her screening process, therefore getting into the golden
gates.
They always try to prevent themselves from getting laid by you. REVEL in it.
Because all shit tests are ACTUALLY OPPORTUNITIES. If you're being tested, its
a good sign, because it SHOWS that you have ENGAGED her reproductive screening
process.
Do you think that HBs sit around shit testing RANDOM BUMS OFF THE STREET???
NO. They only do it to guys just like YOU. So be HAPPY that they shit test
you, because if they didn't, then you are in SERIOUS trouble!
Remember, ANY logical answer shows beta-ness, and therefore will make her MORE
upset. Have you ever seen a guy start explaining himself to a chick and have
her LIKE it??????? RARELY. Only if its a SERIOUS incident, and EVEN THEN
chicks are so chick-ish that they often don't like it.
Hope that's helpful. Try to keep it in mind.
TylerDurden
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