I haven't been able to find a straight answer to this anywhere; what's a good tried-and-true pickup method for beginners?
I don't exactly mean a canned routine, I'm more talking about a structure I can work with, like Opener > Neg > DHV > Kino > etc. so I'm actually learning, not reciting.

I'm very new to this (just finished reading The Game) and it's confusing the hell outta me - everywhere I turn there's information at a price and after reading Neil's book I'm really hesitant to shell out money to someone who could be full of crap.

So if there's a link you could direct me to or some information that helped you as a newbie that you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd be extremely thankful.

Cheers, OHG

p.s I've already done the newbie mission, it went rather well

Hey man yeah we all had to start once!

This site might just be for you: seductionbase.com

it's the site form where i learned pickup. it's pretty organised.
you should really learn from here.

A pick up goes more like this actually: 1) OPEN, 2) BUILDING RAPPORT, 3) (#/kiss/ F) CLOSE

In the BUILDING RAPPORT PHASE, you should do this: 1) ATTRACTION, 2) COMFORT, 3) SEDUCTION

which means: 1) neg, cocky funny, push&pull, DHV,kino 2) emotional connection, storry telling, rapport, physical connection, and more emotional connection, 3) kino, more kino, qualify,ESCALATE


this is ofcourse when you want to have your PU going all the way, but it can go much faster with speed-seduction.

but i suggest you the seductionbase.com site

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Ambitious to be succesfull => Shyler

Is every song formed the same way and played by the same instruments?

With every woman different things have to be done. There is no formula, precisely, its just you being able to react appropriately to the situation at hand. It also helps if you've got some cool things to talk about and good things to say. Everything you say IS material, whether you think it is or not. If someone asks you where you work, BAM, make that a routine. Somehow, make that interesting.
For me routines are what I saw last week, the cat I met yesterday, the weird man on the bus today. You can literally make new routines and use new ones everyday. Obviously there are some things that I do use a lot, but thats usually because I can't think of anything to say. Worst comes to worst I'll just talk about some shit I looked up on wikipedia and get all excited about it and then gentle neg if shes not interested too.

Great way to open is just asking a question or telling a story.

REMEMBER!!! this is me and what works with me. if this isn't you're style then don't do it because i can't explain to you all the little intricacies of how I communicate.

Find who you are first, if you haven't already, and then figure out the best way to showcase that properly.

Treat women like humans.

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it HAS to look and sound real.

fuck you shyler you beat me to the punch!!! ;P

but i will check out that site...

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it HAS to look and sound real.

Hahaha

Your game sounds to me like being more of a natural game.
i agree with some of your points, but if you're a complete newbie you can't ask the AFC to be a natural .

tricks, rules, formulas and know where to begin and where to end are an absolute must if you're starting doing this while being a a newbie.

oh btw ohheyguys, learn also INNER GAME, it might seem stupid at first but you should really learn all about it!

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You WANT to make a change.
You CAN make a change.
You WILL make a change.

Ambitious to be succesfull => Shyler

Thanks guys, I checked out that site and it's a lot easier to work with than trying to scan loads of posts for little bits of info, I'll be favourite-ing it

Sacredstoryteller, I'm not sure how I'd go about making up my own routines, I'm not sure what they all have to have in common and stuff, but I'll remember your post for when I get a bit better at canned stuff, cheers

@Shyler - Inner game, I'm on it!

Honestly, I use many different theories for my game, but to start off I used the Mystery Method and its pretty solid. Learn as much theory as you can, try what works and integrate it into your game. Eventually it will become second nature and you wont even realize you are using it!