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Yup I said it.. and I wil NOT back down.
Here are some things they teach..
*You need to approach ALOT of women to be good with women
*You need to talk 90% of the time (or..be the dancing monkey qualifying the SHIT out of himself) 90/10 rule
*You must demonstrate higher value.
*You need social proof
*You can never get rid of "approach anxiety" (a fake community term)
*AMOG, oh please like other guys are TRYING to make you look bad.
*You need to 'disqualify' a girl that likes you...nice
*Peakocking
Absolute Bullshit.
Approach anxiety comes all down to your mindframe. Change your inner beliefs so that you are the prize, you are desirable, and women are just cute, instead of "sexy, hott, hb10 whatever, and it is gone forever. it is all coming from the way you view things. You cant beat approach anxiety by approaching 500 women. It will come right back 3 days later. Thats because it is not right in your head. Inner game programs are the best for you. I have no approach anxiety, I only had it when I was listening to Mystery, strauss, and whoever else talks about it.
What do I say?? Stories? how do I get from a1 to A3? How do I demonstrate higher value? What do I say after I INITIATE HER? (alot better than 'approach her') Well.... Stop talking and shut the fuck up and let HER talk.. When you most of the talking, all your doing is becoming the entertainer. Why are you trying to be the entertainer when she needs to be the one entertaining you? Are you the man or is she the man? By putting her up on that pedistol, when you do 90% of the talking, all your doing is qualifying the FUCK out of yourself to her. And thats not the way it works, thats not the way its supposed to work. A WOMAN DOES NOT WANT YOU QUALIFYING YOURSELF TO HER. They want to be able to qualify themselves to a man. It doesnt matter HOW strong minded/ business women she is. The less you say the better.
You have to understand guys, the community is built upon..a bunch of guys that have no idea what the Fuck their talking about. They've never really experienced true connection, they dont understand how things really work. And its completely obvious, if they think they have to do 90% of the talking. Its completely obvious. Your going into the interaction saying basically "i dont have what it takes to please this woman, so I need to do everything that I can to show her that im a good guy. verbally, cause I cant do that just by standing there.
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This is a good way to get lots of people to read and respond to your post, however angry and intensely offended their responses are. I'll let you know right now, this isn't one of those.
You refer to the 'community' as you would refer to Mystery or Style or Gambler. The community isn't a single person. The community doesn't teach one set of rules and techniques for gaming. The community is a melting pot of ideas and opinions and techniques, many of them conflicting. THIS POST is now part of the community. Yours is just another 'controversial' post that conflicts with most other ideas. You are condemning yourself.
But, using common sense, I assume you are referring to the 'conventions' of this community. That is, the most frequently taught and referred to methods of gaming. You say that all of these methods (you list them above) are false and don't work and that worrying about them is a waste of time (I hope I'm not putting words in your mouth by stating this).
First of all, you don't really explain WHY these methods don't work. You need to elaborate. You can't just say "this and this and that are all bullshit. Don't do it. that's it." It isn't constructive for anybody. When you take something like that away from someone by saying it doesn't work, supplement it with another method that does work. Sure, you mention something about inner game and mindframes and the mentality of game, but it doesn't really help. Give some substance to it.
Back to the variety of posts and ideas on this site. Game is 100% subjective. That is non-negotiable. Game will be different for everyone. I see it differently than you do (obviously), you see it differently from the next guy. That's why it takes some people years to learn it well, and others are 'naturals'. That's why your opinion will piss so many people off and get four pages of replies. That's why there will never be a consensus on how to get a girl to like you. And that's why the 'community' isn't one set of ideas and teachings; it is an amalgamation.
Now, it seems like I've gone on a rant and just ripped your post to shreds. But it has value, and lots of it. There is one message I get from your post that I think needs to be put in gold letters at the top of this site instead of that chick with the 'free video' link. DON'T OVERCOMPLICATE GAME.
It is so easy to get caught in the midst of all these different opinions and techniques and methods and things to remember that you just don't know where to go. Your post dispels a lot of this 'fluff' that isn't necessary to your success. Break your game down to principles: core-level change, inner comfort, strong reality, confidence. When you follow a list of principles that supports the main ideas behind 'the community' and all the PUAs teachings, (trust me, make a list of these principles and you will find them in EVERY PUA article / book ever), game becomes simpler. It is all a lot easier to take in.
There, now I can breathe. I'm glad you posted this, it really made me think.
CHAT
