So I had an exam yesterday, went pretty well, though I don't like to pressume anything. And what with staying up late every night for the past 4 days studying, I decided that I was going to have an early night in. Get to bed around 11:30 get up early tommorrow to get some more studying done, maybe a bit of day game and go training in the evening.

Didn't go to plan.

About 10:15 I get a call from a girl I know called Jen; it's panicky, quick breathing, she's at a party and "desperatly wants to talk to me". Turns out she is a 30 minute bus ride away at some little house party.

I have zero money at the moment and I run it instead, and get her to hand her phone over to another girl, who is remarkably calm in comparrison to Jen, and I have her direct me to the house when I arrive nearby.

The door opens, and I walk through to the lounge to see Jenn's friends sitting in a circle in the lounge watching TV and eating pop corn.

Jenn is face down on the floor on the outside of the circle.

You're probably wondering what an 18 year old girl is doing at a quiet little house party on the floor....

Well Jen apart from dealing with her chronic depression, paranoia and acute panic attacks is also a recovering alcoholic.

A recovering alcohlic who has decided that tonight is a good night to hit the bottle again.

I pull her off into the hallway, and we talk, she whines about not fitting in at boarding school, cries that no one understands her alcohlism, and moans about the pressures her parents put on her, then she asks how I got here, then she asks why I look different, then she says she is scared of the future, then she asks if she can kiss me then she she whines about not fitting in at boarding school, cries that no one understands her alcohlism, and moans about the pressures her parents put on her, then she asks how I got here, then she asks why I look different, then she says she is scared of the future, then she asks if she can kiss me then she whines about not fitting in at boarding school, cries that no one understands her alcohlism, and moans about the pressures her parents put on her, then she asks how I got here, then she asks why I look different, then she says she is scared of the future, then she asks if she can kiss me....

(If you're not getting the pattern here, I'll make it clear, she is too drunk to remember what she said to me 5 minutes ago and this conversation may as well be with a tape recorder)

I move back to the lounge to get some assistance and me and one of her friends carries Jen upstairs while she pleads for me not to leave, repeatedly exclaiming that I will "be gone"

Her friend tells her "It's cool, he's crashing here with us, he's not going anywhere"

But no matter what we tell her, she sobs and demands for it. She nearly falls down the stairs twice as we carry her up, and her belt buckle isn't on properly so her trousers keep on falling round her ankles and we have to lift them up to cover her up again.

After getting her into the room, she requests that I stay with her to talk for 5 minutes.

This is a lifetime sentance, becuase as soon as I get up to leave, she has forgotten that we have talked and immiediatly requests for me again.

Over the course of 2 hours in that room, and alternating shifts between myself and her friend we try and keep Jenn in bed and get her to go to sleep so she can sober up.

Amidst the broken record playing all her problems and insecurities on a loop, we manage to calm her down by playing some of her favourite music. I stay with her to try and get her to sleep for the last 10 minutes, and during what ended up as 45 minutes rather than 10, she threw every trick in the book to get me to touch her, and to have me let her kiss me. Each time I would turn her down and tell her "not while your drunk"; she would either scream "I'm not drunk, you don't understand" or her eye's would glaze over with hurt and she would declare that she loves me and thinks me to be the greatest guy she's met and asks if it's ok to kiss "in a non intimate way".

Eventually with enough persuading and arguing and denying, I get her friend back up and we guilt trip her into sleeping. At 5:24 Am.

And you know what the punch line is? You'll love this...

In the morning, when I'm on the kitchen patio having a cigarette, she asks how I got here with a confused smile on her face. Barely aware yet of the emotional hell she went through last night.

For all the crying and screaming and emotional (admittedly one sided) heart to heart talks last night, for all the confessions, all the humiliating and degrading positions and all the hurt she endured in those couple of hours, all that pain.

She just won't remember it when she comes round, she'll feel bad, she'll feel guilty but she won't really know why, she won't put one and one together. And the sad fact is she'll repeat it all again in a day or so when she finds some more booze.

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We all like to believe that we are the damaged goods, that we have insecurities, emotional problems, that we are the ones with issues.

Now I don't know what situation you are in right now; but take it from me, it could be much worse.

You know what really sucks? When you go through all that but you remember EVERYTHING! Damn how embarrassing lol

Lets see you left your house in the middle of the night ran 30 mins to listen to some emotionally unstable drunk chick for hours on end. Then you didn't even tap that ass....what a waste of my life reading very dissappointed in you man lol

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Sounds like a fun night... NOT

You should remind her in detail of what happened exactly as you saw it, as a deterrent.

Yeah we are going to video tape her next time and then play it back to her as a reminder. We're also trying to arrange for her to get the courage up to see a therapist. Unfortunatly she comes from a very wealthy and pwerful family, and she doesn't want to tell her parents how her life has been going for the past while.

Anyway point being; get over your issues, they are not half as bad as they could be.

LMAO. Bro, I just read that story and really did fall out of my rollie-chair LOLing! But I do relate, 'cause I've had similar drama happen to me. That's why I always carry my pocket-sized digital camera with me with an 8 GB card in it wherever I go. It's good for collecting evidence against drama queens (and drama kings!)....nothing like the threat of posting drunken behavior to YouTube to change a person for the better! (j/k on that last part....I'd threaten it, but never go through with it)

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Thats the most disturbed comment I have read in a long time.


This story is sad. Poor girl. I think that you did well man. She needed to have you there as a friend first and something else when she knows what she is doing.

Respect.

You are the kind of person I would trust to watch my back.

I hope she is feeling better now.

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Man I got through a similar situation about 3 weeks ago and though not on the same skale, I know what is happening. You relly are a great friend and did what every friend should do, you stuck by her and made sure that she's ok.

If she dosen't want to see a therapist, why don't you use your game to help her change? Make yourself a irresistible guy and say that you won't go out with her until she gets over the drinking. Though it may be slow it warks best in the long run.

One thing I know for sure, though she was drunk and can't remember, she actualy sad what was on her mind. So it shouldn't be that hard to build ataraction more.

I'm giving you this advice becouse we seem to have sort of the same moral ethics, I sort of live by a gold rule "Leave a girl better than you found her", I went a little further and it become for me "Make your friends better than when you found them"

Good job, I know you're a good friend.

You guys can't be serious!? Look this whole situation is nothing more than some drunk chick drunk dialing. Girls say all sorts for randoms things like that when they're drunk. Its proof by the fact she didnt' remember nothing that happened. She was just wanting attention and to hook up.


All I'm saying is I wouldn't have gone out of my to go listen to this girl cry and moan about her problems. She had plenty of girlfriends there she could have told that too. Plus she puts herself in those situations.

Fin can do what he wants. Me once I assessed the situation that she didn't have a gun or a knife in her hand ready too kill herself would have told her i'm going to bed see you later. If you allow a girl to get that comfortable to be able cry, bitch and moan to you so freely she'll never get any better and she'll never learn.

Also Fin is breaking LJBF's rule # 6 see below
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So what.

Not every girl you talk to has to be a lay.

Sometimes people just need to drop the PUA act and be a good human being.

I've got no idea if her therapists are any good but they usually aren't:

The biggest problem when dealing with alcoholism is the bodies addiction to sugar.

Seriously, alcohol breaks down into sugar within the body - fact. And when the body is used to getting a constant supply of something and you don't give it what it's used to getting you will get the raving-cravings... the ones that make you go batshit insane in order to get what your body wants - like when you're really, really fucking thirsty and you start thinking about drinking from dirty, oily, nasty puddles in order to get a drink.

Yeah, with alcoholism you have the psychological factors - emotional links to being drunk, problems that make them want to drink, previous experiences, etc. - but the biggest driving factor, and most dangerous one when dealing with alcholism, is the fact that the body will periodically go apeshit when it doesn't get the sugar that it thinks it *needs*.

And to be honest, most 'alcholism experts' fail utterly to deal with that aspect;

You need to get a big supply of really, really, really sugary sweets and drinks on hand, so that when she starts to get the cravings to the point where she thinks it will be a good idea to pick up a bottle of booze, she can simply reach for the sweets instead. It wont stop the cravings completely, but it will make them one hell of a lot more manageable - and so long as the psychological aspects of drinking are being taken care of effectively by her therapists/family/friends it's one of the only effective way of dealing with it.

Then, after you've started to get a handle on things, you can start to gradually reduce the amount of sugar in her diet; unless you want her to be a big fat diabetic... you're not into BBW's are you by any chance OP?

Yes becuase chronic depressive alcoholics = Drunk person crying.

Go get your dick wet, I don't think you have much use for your life outside of that right now so you may as well just do what you love right now until you find some other purpose.

Again.

Fin! Respect!

We are human beings first and PUAs whenever. I admire you and hereby give you the highest amount possible of reputation points!

This is an example we could all learn from!

Taking care of a friend in need is more important than anything.

Ezo

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