Friend Zone Check list you already know when...

1. Your posting on the forum asking if you’re in the friend zone ( if you need to ask then you probably are)

2. You’ve never explicitly let the girl know your sexual interest either verbally or physically (friend zone)

3. You slept in the same bed together and didn’t even try to make a move towards sex (friend zone/ beta male)

4. She doesn’t return your calls or texts(it’s not that she forgot to call you back she just chose not to call you back) (friend zone)

5. You’ve gone on a date or hung out a several times alone and haven’t made a move on her (friend zone/ beta male)

6. You find yourself listening and trying to solve all her emotional issues about: girl gossip, other men, life problems, child hood abuse etc., and you never stop her and you’re not having sex (friend zone/ beta male/being used)

7. She tries to always invite her friends along whenever you ask her hang out with you ( friend zone)

8. You’ve tried kissing her and she stops you (friend zone)

9. She talks about how she’s had sex with other men or you know for a fact she’s had sex before, but you aren’t having sex with her, only having a kissing / groping session. (being used/not in control beta male)

10. Tells you lets just be friends (friend zone)

11. Says she’s given up on sex saying it complicates the relationship and you stick around hoping you’ll change her (friend zone/ beta male)

12. You’re too available for her like a nice boy and not having sex (friend zone)

13. She verbally puts a time frame for when you’re going to finally have sex example 6 months, 2 yrs, marriage etc., maybe she’ll give and occasional hand job and you accept her terms ( being used/ beta male)

14. You find yourself getting upset when she’s makes plans with other men (and your not having sex with her) (friend zone/ beta male)

15. She say’s I like you but I don’t want to ruin our friendship (friend zone)

16. Crying and begging for her to see you as more than just a friend (friend zone/ beta male)


If you answered yes to or experienced any of the above well then I've just saved you the trouble of posting your problem. I’m not saying every single case above means absolute friend zone however they all will eventually put you in the friend zone.

The important thing to realize is the friend zone is always 100% preventable
Once you get over your fear of rejection and start taking advantage of the situation.


Definition of terms:

Friend zone = receiving no sexual interest from person you’re attracted too- 99% of the time its your own fault your there in the 1st place
Beta male = wimp, nice guy, not taking charge of the situation, not getting what you want out the relationship, frustrated , lacking testicular fortitude.
Being used = being a girls own personal counselor, gift buyer, dinner buyer, comfort, security, cuddle buddy and not getting what you want in return

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very impressive and very accurate!

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Good list.
Agreed. I think you (in general) just kind of get the vibe when you are in the friends zone. Asking for reassurance won't change that.

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THATS ALL REAL TALK

Thanks everyone and if there's something I can add to the list let me know

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lol, nice!

There are so many people that have asked question about whether or not they're in the Friend Zone (including me).

If you could add descriptions on how to AVOID most of the steps, that would be awesome. And in that case and in my opinion, this should be STICKIED.

Great work.

Haha, Reminds me of the list from Letterman. THis is a really good post though. THis should deffinitely be sticky-ed.

Zentrode has a good suggestion. I'll start with the ones I can answer. However, alot of these are the result of a lot of litte fuck-ups along the way, so they're difficult to sum up in a sentence or two. Others are just things that are unfixable and should be your cue to move on.

3. This is probably the easiest one to nullify. If you've ended up in the same bed, its safe to say you've done the right things to initate sex (kissing, kino, groping, ...). You dont dont just say, "Hey we should sleep in the same bed for no reason at all". You both know why you're there, just pull the trigger. If you've got her in the bed, thats the greenlight.

4. Easy. Grow a pair and initiate kino. Its not hard to do and actually comes natural to humans (we like to touch and be touched). The barrier here is all in your head. We tend to draw up these unrealistic situations where it all goes horribly wrong and she's offended, which is complete and utter BULLSHIT. Never in the histroy of man has a date with a woman ended or even went south because you touched her arm or waist. Break the barriers and, in the immortal words of Digital Underground, Doowutchyalike!

8. This is very dependant on the situation. If you've known her and been dating/hanging out with her for a good while and this happens, youre in the friends zone. But, if this is your first time meeting her and this happens, you're not totally out of luck. The main reason this happens is because you havent built enough comfort with her yet. Put yourself in her shoes. Imagine you just sat down with someone you were maybe slightly attracted to and only shared a few words with and he suddenly tried to kiss you. It would be awkward to say the least. This is because you have to build comfort. there are entire sections of this forum dedicated to that, so I wont go into elaborate detail. The main thing you can do for this is to use alot more kino. If she's not yet comfortable with alot of touching, she damn sure isnt comfortable kissing you.

12. Get yourself out of the state of mind that makes you feel obligated to be her little bitch-boy. Do you know any people who will just show up for anything you need in amoments notice? Doubt it. So why make yourself that guy? Let her know that you have a life that doesnt revolve around her.

Hope this helps.

Thanks and I like GRKillers bullet points

I don't have those numbered in any specific order

However all other numbers 3- 16 become an issue when you don't take of the most important things first of which is #2. You’ve never explicitly let the girl know your sexual interest either verbally or physically. If you don't take care of this step you have nothing and no one to blame but yourself


Next with the being used/betamale no control
You need to already know what you want from the relationship and stand by what you want. if you start playing by her rules and changing your behavior to accomodate her then you've lost for example: if you like sex and you know she'll never give it to you, well you just accept it and become her loving boyfriend for the next 2yrs?

One more thing need to have a level respect yourself and set your limits for what you won't tolerate

example with #4
my limit will be Ok i've left 2 message and no return call, its on the NEXT girl

with # 7 ok this girl always makes excuse not to hang out with me, I'll never invite her anywhere again

with #10 ok do i really want to continue hanging around this girl knowing every guy but me can f*** her and have her come tell me about how she had the best sex ever , I'm gone baby

And if the People want it stickied well Mods?

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This post could help a lot of people.....

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Don't you hate it when you read one of these checklists and you're like "Yep. Yep. YEP. ...no, oh wait, yep."

But reading these signs and knowing them is halfway to avoiding them in the first place, so thanks for posting that.

very accurate

Very nice bro! I will look out for all of that!

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Nice post mate!

Someone asked for avoiding friend zone. Main tactic you should do is that from the moment you meet the girl, you have to flirt with her, do pushing and pulling, and develop comfort in the same time. Tested in field, worked for me. Had a girlfriend, and met this one really cool girl, HB9, I had a gf but flirted with her a lot, did pushing and pulling, kino, and all that stuff, but didn't ever want to make out with her, because I never cheat on a girl. When I broke with my old gf, got into LTR with that girl.
Just take it easy and don't be needy, that's the thing you also need to avoid.