Alright I am going to post the back and forth I had with a girl I met on online dating site. Let me know where I went wrong?

Me: I was just curious what you look like? Your profile looks good but I'd be kind of scared to meet you without seeing what you look like

Her: hey i put some pics up so you have some idea of who i am. was taking a break from match.. some guys were just getting a little to strange lol.
chat soon hopefully.
NAME.x

Me: Hey NAME, yeah I know what you mean, online dating is cool but I've met my share of winners lol. I met this one girl we chatted and after I met her in person she didn't look anything like the picture, I had to sit uncomfortably through the date. Anyways, you are cute, I am glad you look normal and since I liked your profile and I wasn't sure what you looked like. Most of the time girls that don't have a profile picture do it for a good reason. Alright, I got to ask you since this is huge for me but? Do you have a deep voice lol I know it sounds stupid but that is a total turn off. Anyways, talk to you later.

Her: haha do i have a deep voice? does it look like i would? im a pretty much the soft normal type... no deep voice at all.. lol that must have been pretty hard for you to get through that dinner. i havent met anyone on match yet.. i suppose im a little worried of that also..if they turn out normal. so what are you plans for this evening anything fun?

Me: haha well I am glad, you'd be surprised at some girls out there...it's like talking to Barry White lol. I am taking it easy tonight since I have a PT test tomorrow, I have to get sleep so I can kick ass. Are you doing anything fun? You are a student so every night has to be a fun night.

this was the last reply, after this she did not reply. I waited about 4 days and posted this last message just a few minutes ago...

Me: Did you lose your picture? Are weirdoes after you again? lol anyways just wondering how you are doing?



Now I am a little confused since obviously she seemed interested and throughout the back and forth I did not appear needy or desperate but it just fizzled on her end. What is the deal with this? What do you guys think? Bottom line is that it could be millions of reasons but from your experiences did I screw this up or was it something that was out of my hands. Thanks PUAs from AFC!

First off let me say I do not consider myself a PUA, I'm new but I will tell you what I see:

First off you jump into looks and you stress how important they are to you. The girl probably thought you were shallow as hell but seems like she gave you a chance. This would have been a good time for you to stress "beauty is common". Tell her that beauty is everywhere and you're looking for a girl that can hold a conversation and make you laugh.

You also mentioned a previous time when you had a date with a deep voiced, ugly chick. She doesn't wanna hear about that especially since she doesnt even know you, you are not DHV this way.

You may have scared her away because of all the negatives you gave to her about the dates you were on. You showed her you were very critical of people and you put a lot of effort into asking if she was a good-looking girl without a barry white voice.

Next time you should let her do more talking, remember you are the prize, demonstrate your good attitude and confidence and it will work out for you.

Sleye,

Great advice! I guess my timing is wrong, I didn't want to come off like I thought she was really pretty, which she was. I guess the things community teaches are great tools but they need to be used at the right time in the right quantity. I feel that this is the biggest part of my game that lacks. Again thanks for the good advice.

One of the best tips i've gotten from reading through this bible we call a forum is a good way to reduce nervousness and shyness. Focus on her flaws, no one is perfect, if you focus on her problems then you will calm yourself down and as a result you should be able to talk to her more easily.

Obviously dont call her out on her flaws but keep them in the back of your head when you're talking to her.

Yeah man im a newbie too,

But I didnt get any sexual vibe's or anything from your post, u just seemed like a nice/shallow guys who wanted to see if shes physically attractive.

Just go along w/ what Sleye says, kinda like David D's stuff,

-Sil3nt

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Gents, thanks yeah I feel that I am trying too hard to say the right thing and that might be the issue. I usually don't get nervous when I speak to girls, but I am always super critical on what I m saying that it takes over and makes me say the wrong things.

It's been about 4 months since I read the game. After I read that book everything made so much sense, I was super positive and had a sense of flow. Now I have forgotten some things and maybe I need to go back and re-read the book. I am currently reading Mystery Method and it's very good. Anyways, I just hope I don't lose the confidence I had after I read the game.