This is a huge problem for me and joining this site is my attempt to do something about my lack of success. I'm only 1.72m and girls always tend to go for the taller guys who are 6ft+. It doesn't help that i only feel attracted to short girls and they only like the taller guys. I just feel that i am not good enough because of this and it was something i could not control growing up. I know that i cannot game in clubs because it is a rubbish environment for someone of my physical stature to game in (i am not ugly and have a decent enough face) but i feel i need to talk to girls more in order to get them attracted to me whereas the tall good looking guys just get the girl in 5 minutes. The only thing i can seem to offer is the fact that i'm doing a very prestigious course at University and i am someone who is going to do very well at life. However, it just hurts that i always get overlooked in social circles where the bigger guys can dominate with their size. Whenever i speak up etc it just looks like short mans syndrome. I am a virgin too at 20 years old which makes me feel terrible when i hear of what guys my age are doing. I just really need help.

If i just succeed with one girl , its all i want man, but i fail at what i do.

You have a piss poor attitude. You'll never get anything if you keep believing that you can't get it.

Start reinforcing your life with positive thinking. The more you think positively, the more you'll start to subconsciously work towards those positive things. I know that I pretty much get everything I want, and it's because I'm always looking on the brighter side and I never have any silly cerebral hang ups. Think the same way.

Think like a winner.

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I think your confidence plays a big role, I'm a 15 year old guy, 1,72M & I score chicks older & taller than me.

You can't change your height, but you can do a lot by changing your confidence.

I know looks aren't the be all and end all but tbh i'm shorter than a lot of girls.

Wouldn't the girls i go for (the ones shorter than me) know this and reject me because there are so many girls and guys taller?

I don't know people my height who i have succeeded.

guys, i'm serious about getting good ok. I am fine with everything else in my life but this part gets me seriously depressed. It's just so hard to live with and i don't know what to do if i don't progress.

Just direct me onto any good material to start on. I also think i need a role model i can relate to for this journey.

You can't get girls because you are insecure about your height, that's the only reason!

A friend of mine is only 5ft and asian, he picks up any girl he wants, he has tons of confidence!

Believe in yourself or you won't achieve shit!

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bro... u cannot tell me you can't get girls because of your height. Thats the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. Amigo, I stand 5'3'(5'5'-5'6' when i go out) and I still get tail son. Confidence radiates and you clearly need some confo cookin'. I'm self concious too and i think about that shit everyday. GET OVER IT. My friends pick at me sometime about my shortness but that shit rolls right on by. I hook up with more girls than nearly all my friends so there is no excuse. If you were taller of course it would be easier, shit man it would easier for all of us. But were just not so your game has to be that much tighter. No girls are interested in a downer uninteresting looking guy. Be about it son and I guarentee your world will soon evolve.

Well, I can see where you are coming from.

I understand that it feels like your height is an issue and frankly in general girls go for taller guys.

However, have you ever seen a short guy with a pretty girl? Yes. It is possible.

So why cant you get it?

Because you let it be an excuse for your failure. You have entered the world of PickUP! Normal rules no longer apply to you. Physical appearance issues are beneath you, they arent even worth your attention.

I too have things about my body that I cannot like, cannot change. So, what do I do to avoid the problem. I deal with it. I dont let it be a problem. The problem is only as big as you make it.

And come on, you are 172 cm. Thats not short man.

Just forget about blaming your height and start using the stuff you find in the world of PU.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Thanks for the responses guys.

Thing is, i need to know how to use the stuff that i have going for me to outshine these taller guys. I live in Manchester in England where the guys in clubs tower over me to the extent where i just use clubs now as a chance to hang out and have a joke about with the guys (because based on my physical stature, i am beaten). So, i'm thinking i should game in the day because it might help that i can use my achievements (i'm studying Law at the Uni and in general i have a lot going for me, plus my family have strong political connections but i don't know how i can get that to work for me) to get over that pre-dhv of height that a lot of the other guys have.

And seriously, part of the problem i have regarding the confidence issues with girls is that i have been overlooked time and time again in our social circles where the taller guys (the rugby players and the tall, loud and arrogant ones) get the hot girls. Whilst i believe i have the brain to lead them physically they win with the girls because i just feel croweded out when we're talking to the girls, they always run to the tall guys first. I know i shouldn't have this problem because i feel like i am owning so many other parts of life but yet i'm a virgin, sad to say.

I need to do something about this therefore, find new avenues of girls i'm attracted to and then game them. With current social circles, i just need to establish a repuatation of being a strong and fun guy, but again its hard.




I just need a direction. But first i wanna know why i always think when i'm talking to girls that they are not attracted to me/wouldn't date me because of my height?

Couldn't have stated it any better. 1.72m = 5'8 and thats not short at all. Dude I'm 18, 5'8 1/2" and I get pussy like crazy...f-closed a girl two days ago, and I got a HJ/tittyfuck from a girl this evening that I've only spent 3 hours with.

Like Valor said...confidence is key. I know plenty of guys 5'8" and under who get more than enough pussy, because they understand that their confidence is completely incongruent to how tall they are.

Women can scan a guys confidence almost immediately. If you walk around like 5'8" is short; you may as well be 4'7'' in the eyes of most girls.

So?

That's what PUA is all about, learning to make yourself more attractive to women through your attitude, body language and charisma than because of your physical attributes.
Look at yourself more and come up with what you can really offer. Then come up with DHV stories to portray that stuff. You'll have to talk longer, but so what if you get the girl?

Woah dude my cousin is a short mother fucker probably around 5'4 but he picks up the hottest chicks out of anybody I know!!! He dances alot of Salsa though but still he has confidence and swagger. Maybe you should take dance lessons and start dancing with hot chicks that will increase your confidence!

Or you could learn PUA and start opening sets. That builds confidence even more.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Dude, im about 5'5, I hate my height too, but thats not gonna change it. wishing and hoping will get us no-where, changing our mind set will. the main thing that my height affects is of course my confidence, as it does yours, when ive got my timberlands on i feel the inner me is being expressed in my appearance. so i think we have just got to find other ways of boosting our confidence, ill be trying the stylelife challenge and newbie missions soon.

p.s i have been with a girl whose about 5'7 (HB9), and i dont think she was with me for my height or looks, i put it down to my swagger and the lack of attention i gave her, this was before i found out about PUAs, and now i truly believe anything is possible!!