The fact that you're considering "I lost count at 30" to be equal to "I have slept with 30 different women, and that's it" is sad. Once you start arguing logistics of a false conclusion, your reasons become a non-factor as it is a false conclusion.

You could technically argue the fact that a person who's slept with 500 women definitely has slept with 30 women, but that's beside the point.

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Interesting thread, but what I found more interesting was the thread title "only 30 women!

30 is still a lot. Let's say if you skip the 5s and the 6s and just aim for 8+ you can be just as happy as a guy who is getting tenfold more girls but of the 5 and 6 standard.

Imagine if you could sleep with a different woman every single night. Would you?

I can honestly say I wouldn't. I only go for very pretty girls now despite knowing I can have sex with average and below par girls fairly easily. Sometimes a good wank about a good shag you've had beats sex with an average girl (my best mate from home doesn't agree with this though, and his number is around 30).

People are different. Not everyone wants to just rattle anything that moves.

He's asking because he doesn't understand why guys have a thing for fucking loads of women, and he thinks most guys do it to make themselves a better person despite the answer fairly obviously being because they want to (nothing wrong with that either).

At the end of the day fucking a lot of women or feeling like you have to have a high number is a cry for validation. It's so much better to have a girl that fits you perfectly. Of course, you probably have to go through a lot of women to get there and it doesn't always work out. I guess Adam Lyons found his 1 in 500.

No, it isn't a cry for validation. Humans are genetically programmed to want to spread their seed, would you tell a caveman who went around fucking anything that moved it was a cry for validation?

Some guys want to fuck a load and have fun before settling down, some guys want fun before settling down, and some guys only want to settle down and have sex only with the right one.

Like I said above, everyone is different.

Well so you are claiming that yeah he have slept with 30 girls?

Then my little girl...

I gotta tell you that this makes me laught. That you are married to one of the communities biggest frauds. I have exposed your boyfriend before, who promised me a dinner + bootcamp if i removed my stuff...

He is litterally a fraud. I can find the thread for instance, and i still got his message and i would have no issue re-exposing him.

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I don't find it entertaining that some dumbass who lies a lot and teaches recycled mystery method steals a lots of cash of broke AFC's.

Adam is a fraud.

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30 is far from enought in order to call yourself mpua. Also his advices can be found in mystery's ebook. Read the original source buddy, adam haven't invented anything. So then he can be credited for being good at teaching... well i've been seeing some funky reviews... and the fake reviews as replies aren't really legit.

So then if he sucks at teaching got nothing original... then he better get's laid?

To me he claimed he laid 7 girls in one day. I asked him and Gunwitch about how to get that sexdrive. Gun said: You gotta be joseph fritzl....

Adam reframed the question and changed topic. What a lameass.

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Cavemen didn't link sex with childbirth (they take place 9 months apart afterall), so they had no reason to be possessive of their mates. And since cavemen lived in nomadic social groups, women usually had sex with everyone in the group. That means you are genetically "programmed" not to mind if your wife/girlfriend/mate has sex with all your friends and male family members. You are also genetically predisposed to incest because it's impossible to track who conceived which child. We aren't cavemen, when people cite "genetic programming" it's a fucking excuse not to act like a civilized human being. Nothing people do anymore is natural, get over it.

Oh Jesus Christ. Another one. Tearing someone down won't make you look any better. The opposite is true. You guys are like one of those people that stands outside a church with a sign that says "There is no god". So what if you don't believe what AFC Adam offers, some people find it useful/motivational. Why would you put so much effort into shitting on what other people like?

Our minds are intelligent enough to adapt to the whatever situation we are in. This is why when we are taught by our parents and people who we percieve as 'in the know' we take their advice on board because this is how we learn and grow - through others. This doesn't mean that the genetic programming theory is wrong.

You get it. I didn't say it was wrong. I'm saying our actions aren't limited to caveman behaviors and I'm tired of people using it as an excuse not to act right. You can just admit promiscuity is a choice you made without citing anthropology, without claiming your genes decide your life.

Yer its a nice way for guys to justify actions which deep down they know are wrong.

It does not matter how many women he had slept with.

What really matters is how many women he could choose to sleep with.

He once brought 120 chicks to clubs at one go.

You learn PUA to increase your level of attraction, not your sexual appetitie.

It bothers me that just about everyone thinks they're qualified to talk about cavemen, even though they know next to nothing about them.

I'd like it if you posted any sort of evidence to back up these claims, because I find it hard to believe that there was no mating competition among paleolithic humans.

The fact that PUA techniques work all over the world, no matter what culture, suggests that they are rooted in biology, and that certain traits are more attractive than others, and I'd find it odd if cavemen showed no selection bias based on this.

While it's hard to know exactly how paleolithic life was, there is a lot of evidence pointing towards humans being serial monogamists, and therefor possessive of their mates. The biggest evidence for serial monogamy is probably love, which lasts an average of two years and makes the person very attached to his mate, together with the fact that women prefer men who display characteristics of good fatherhood for long term relationships. ( http://books.google.no/books?id=3u6JNwM ... on&f=false http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/su ... 589095_ITM ) This suggests that men have an important role in raising a child. Just about every modern hunter-gatherer society has some form of sexual partnership. Kalahari Bushmen even have marriage: http://books.google.no/books?id=49LL8Na ... ge&f=false

The same with the Masaii (though the masaii have turned into an agricultural society now, the institution of marriage goes way back before that time):
http://www.maasaieducation.org/maasai-c ... remony.htm

I'd go on, but I really don't want to derail further. This isn't an attack on you btw, I just very often see the "this is how cavemen lived" thing posted without any backing from evidence. Read more about "pop-darwinism" here:

http://www.alternet.org/sex/104149/cave ... es/?page=1

Ha this thread is one of the funny one's that appear every so often.

"Omg Adam Lyons only slept with 30 women",why care?

Adam's job isn't a pua, he works in online marketing.He is a sales man.
He uses many different marketing techniques to sell his product including nlp.
Adam's and all the other "pua gurus" rely on customers, the insecure men who's
problems are often far greater and deeper than just having women problems,
problems worthy of real professional help but I guess these gurus can market themselves better than a psychologist, after all sex sells and who doesn't like the idea of been able to have sex with any woman you desire.

I'm all for people wanting to better themselves.In this community there are many genuine good guys from which you can learn and get help from.Don't buy products and go to bootcamps, the material you need is free.
From time to time the salesmen will slip up but does it really matter if Adam slept with 30 women? How does this effect your game?