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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:16 am 
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Negative Attraction

Adam, after a suggestion to friend online he told me about your theory on Negative Attraction. I have met a friend's friend who has a strong frame and she was rude to me the 2nd time we met at a bar (she was pissed at the bar tender). I want to try the neg attraction thing you talk about and would like to know whether the next time we meet should I be rude to her or should I just treat her like a bratty little sister and just be nice excusing her behavior. I am inclined towards the former to strike an instant rapport but dont want her to feel hurt and go. What are your thoughts and how did you act with the socialite in London in your case ?

Thanks in advance, Marc


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Hey adam,
I joined this forum so i could write this one message to you. Just wanted to say your a boss and really thank you (for being so accessible, putting up free material, figuring out game that is genuine so that we don't have to ask people "who lies more...").Long story short, I did what you said and powered through AA and now im in the process of practicing, practicing, practicing real game. Basically its been two months since i picked up your course. Right now i'm dating two 25 year olds (im 19...totally stoked!!) And slowly but surely ill keep making real progress.
peace

ps. when do you think the vip section of your site might start working again?


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Hey Adam, I'm trying to focus myself on comfort, which is where I have problems. But I'm confused.

There are some people out there in the community who say that Comfort in your formula is different. You define it as having trust and rapport. Some have said that by comfort you meant "Social comfort", which is all about being polite and pacing a person's reality. I'm not sure what that is exactly. Can you explain what Comfort is in the context of your formula? What should be done to achieve it?

I have two scenarios floating in my head and I'm not sure which is the correct way to build comfort before breaking rapport:

1) Topical conversation (eg. animals, cars, etc) ---> break rapport

2) Comfort building questions (eg. Would you survive without meat?) ---> break rapport.

Another problem I find myself asking is should I only stay in comfort or should I also break rapport and qualify if I just want to be friends with a stranger?


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Hey Adam,

I was out sarging one night, and I was doing dance floor game. I'm a good dancer, I've practiced a lot in the past months, and when I'm on the dance floor I always attract attention, IOIs etc...

The whole night went well, I enjoyed myself I won't go into too much detail there. But one thing happened that I can't explain... There was this girl, her name is Simona, an HB10, alpha female. We know each other for years, but in the past, way before I became a PUA, I did some major fuck ups and ruined any chances I had with her. After I became a PUA, I realized what I've done and decided that it would be for the best if I just forget about her.

Anyway, she was there with her female friends and she was observing what I was doing the entire night... As I mentioned my reasons above, I did not approach her. I just noticed her, and carried on with what I was doing.
Eventually she decided to come to me. She took her friends with her and was on her way towards my group. I noticed that and said to myself "So, you finally decided to approach me? Alright... Let's see what you have to say..." What surprised me was this: At the last minute she turned her back against me and approached the nearest guy... I was like "WTF?" But I know better than to freak out ... I just carried on with my game... and she left afterward.

When she came back to her table, this time she seemed kinda sad... didn't stop looking at me tough. Later I noticed that she was picking up some guy or vice versa. I'm not sure, I had my own business to worry about. Later they both kissed, and again she looked at me...

Eventually my nightgame was officially over and I left the club with the girl I was after. But I still can't figure out why Simona behaved that way...
What are your thoughts on this mate?

Thank You in Advance.

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Hi Adam,

No questions about how to break rapport here, just wondering if you were planning on doing another webinar at any point in the future?

Thanks,
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Hey Dude be nice if you gave a look at my question creating-buzz--vt66465.html , be a great topic for a youtube video too *wink wink nudge nudge* :D,

Thanks Olie

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Adam.


I am a 21 year old.
I found my first "PUA" stuff at 16 (In the form of advice, books from random sources, and trial-and-error)

As of now, I know enough about every facet of PUA-dom to do some major ripping and results wherever I go.



....Am I too young for this shit?


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Hey Adam.

I've been studying your stuff for a while, and I've got to thank you, it's great!

My problem is how would I go about 'gaming' over Facebook with a girl that I have known a while. Don't worry, it's not 'one-itis', haha, I have just always thought she was cute but before hand I didn't have a clue how to go about it.

Facebook is the only way I can contact her, as I haven't seen her for a good few months now.

If it helps, she's always seen me as the 'funny' guy, I guess that is where no sexual escalation gets me, haha.

Any tips mate?
Hey Cash,

Here are some quick tips for you!

1. Start speaking to her a bit to put yourself back in the forefront of her mind, ie. drop her a message to 'catch up' or start Facebook chatting.
2.Get the interaction off of Facebook.
3.Make it a group event so that it is less pressure
4.Keep regular conversation with her so that she looks forward to your messages. Do that by making it fun and interesting, don't just speak about the boring mundane.
5.Shift the conversation to be sexually oriented.
6.Keep meeting up off of Facebook and turn those conversations personal.
Have fun!


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ahh thanks man i understand what i need to do know your advice is always good!
yea i think being young and kinda a natural with girls is very good but i really am pushing to go to the top with this stuff i feel like my chances are better then some guys and i want to really get to be an mPUA someday soon. im deffinitly not one to slack but i still feel like im getting close to that high level of game...but i just want to be there already ha!

again thanks for the advice, i hope someday il get to meet you or something cool like that cause you have been such a big help i really appriciate it

might come at with you with more questions sometime if im stuck :P

take care mate
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Hey Adam
Im in college. Im a second semester Junior and I'm in a fraternity that throws crazy parties. I'm social, funny, and I love to party. I go out atleast twice a week. I know this sounds like a online dating profile but the reason why I'm saying this is because I constantly here everyone say college game is so much easier than real word game. Now I am doing pretty good but I'm tired of that I wanna do great... really great. I want to look back when I am in the real world doing cold approach which sucks btw compared to this and say " atleast college was insane."

I took your bootcamp and because of it I am now over approach anxiety and could really care less about rejection/ There is just one thing I really do care about and thats my reputation/ In college just like all closed off societies such as school, work and chruch your reputation is everything. I never wanna be known as that creepy guys who hits on every girl or the that guy that walks up to everyone to make forced conversation. Now mabe I could do this myself but by the time I have figured it all out college may be over. Your the number one pickup artist in the world and your bootcamp was one of the best investments Ive ever made so I'm gonna ask you how do I become "that guy." Now lets say I'm in class or walking around Is it wierd of me to strike of a conversation then use a justification to get a number on a mass scale ( by this I mean 10+ approaches a day) I go to a school of about 12000 and my biggets thing is just that if I apprach to many woman or appraoch a girl in a manner not usually seen, such as a girl sitting and studying, Ill get a reputation as the guy that appraches tons of woman which could be seen as creepy mabe or is this all in my head? I have all the tools good lifestyle, decently high social proof, a good understanding of the game, but I just dotn know how to implement them on a mass scale so I need your help.

Also once I get there how do I keep contact with all those pple cuz rite now Im having trouble keeping in contact with 4 or 5 girls?

I know this is quite the question and I know I am asking a lot but I figured if anyone would know how to get this done you would.

O and if your rlly feeling generous could you break down ( not just for me but for anyone who ever reads this post) Exactly what makes a guy creepy in a girls eyes other than the obvious? As in how far can you go before its creepy suchh as wait around to talk to her if shes on the phone or go across teh room to talk during the day.

Stephen
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Hey SAF12

Great to hear that you have kept up the practice since the bootcamp. The best way to continue practicing without coming off as a creep is to keep it as casual as you can.

For example, you can open with “Hey, I see you're carrying an O-Chem book... Is that class really as hard as everyone says?” “Hey, are you in my Social Media class?” “Oh nooo, they ran out of sausage pizza. That's my fave!” Basically anything that is casual and not too direct will work. Then follow it up with where they live (on or off campus), what their major is, and where they party or what bars they go to. Lastly, closing by saying you have a great party or event they have to attend or saying you need help with homework or notes from the class you missed is the best way to not get labeled as a player. And yes, you can do this with 10+ approaches a day, just make sure that you're not doing it in front of the same people or the same girls and it should be fine.

Keep in contact with mass texts to start and then start personalizing them as the responses come in.

Lastly, there are a thousand things to do to be creepy. The general rule of thumb for all situations is to not hover around her or the group and don't creep up before the approach.


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Hey Adam-

I'm a former bootcamp student and since my game has improved a lot... but now I'm getting stuck on some things I find...

I'm still unclear as what to how to properly sexually escalate in terms of rewarding her for qualifying herself to you; can you give me examples of some ways to better VERBALLY escalate .. It seems logical that you start small at first and then build to more sexual comments as she accepts.. but where do you even start? Do you just say "wow, thats hot..look at you" after she tells you something cool about her?

One other thing; I'm having trouble with my 'inner game' I'm finding... I think I naturally tend to be a perfectionist for some reason... in terms of 'classical conditioning' I think I tend to unconsciously 'punish' myself when I mess up.. so this is hard because I know I'm gonna F- things up a lot starting out, so that 'knowing' or expectation seems to be holding me back and making excuses to not get my arse out there and practice!!... what's the best way to just let yourself have fun and not attach your identity to what happens? What are some ways to 're-condition' my brain to have fun with this and see it as enjoyable rather than 'hard painful work'... I read your diary, and read about how you went out 7 hours a day every day- that's a lot of sets! I assume that not EVERY approach when great at first (who knows, maybe I'm wrong tho..lol) -- but how did you stay motivated when things DIDN'T go well at all?

Hey thanks for your help!

Brian
Hey BrianP

The way to verbally escalate is, like you said, start off small and then grow it. Example below:

“So you grew up in Chicago, right? That's awesome, do you have any brothers or sisters? (Still boring basic conversation) And your parents, were you close with them? Oh, I know how much is sucks to have parents who live apart. Did seeing your parents divorce hurt you? Has that affected how you look at guys and relationships? What about casual and open relationships? It's awesome that you agree that emotionally unattached sex is healthy.... etc...”

Of course you wont be asking question after question, you will be having basic conversation throughout the whole thing.

The best way to not get down when a set doesn't go amazingly is to use it as a learning experience. If it goes wrong don't get down on yourself, instead just choose to make the mental switch and think, OK, what could I have learned from that.

Hope this helps!


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oh by the way adam thanks for chattin with use yesterday during the webinar that was awesome to be able to ask you things directly, your a big help. amanda is amazing aswell you both very knowledgeable

cheers mate
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Hi Adam,

Im a 14 year old that just got into the game. I've read about speed seduction, mystery method, and a load of other crap and yours seems to make the most sense. Being a freshman in a VERY SMALL high school (like 90 kids in our grade), its really hard to practice gaming chicks. On top of that, I'm a minority and also marked as socially awkward. Some chicks at my school are pretty hot, but they act as if everything you say is to hit on them (when I legitimately just want to talk and be friends) and answer everything with a scoff, because they have been called "hot" all their lives. My grade actually has a lot of naturals and I can see that the things they do are very similar to your teachings. I can't go to clubs, and I can't drive so my options of practicing are very limited. Because I'm so young, I can't approach random people because they view me as a kid. Should I forget about PUA until junior year (when I can drive)? Also, as I'm new, please tell me how to start.

Thanks so much,
Kevstheman

Hey Kevstheman,

The issues that you have addressed are what we call a logistical problem. If your logistics don't line up and there is no practice ground because you can't drive or get into clubs, then you're really going to have to use what you have. Yes, you might alienate the small group that you CAN interact with, so you have to assess if that is a risk you want to take.

The best thing to do is to start off slow and small with your interactions and don't try to do anything drastic or extreme. If you can do that for a few weeks and get good responses then escalate it a bit.

Have fun with it!
Adam


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Hi Adam,

I'm 22 living in London. A friend and I have started going out in field to clubs seriously since the new year. Loving your stuff as I can relate to it far more due to cultural similarities.

We've managed to get ourselfs consistently getting into top clubs and for free(which helps alot) I live with two girls (hotties) who are great firends of mine, and who can often bring other girls. Also im working on building friendships with sets I open in order to hopfully get them coming out with us too. Im at a stage where I really want to be taking big groups of girls to clubs in order to aim at getting tables for free as I notice that's where alot of attention revolves.

So my questions are:
- Roughly how many girls do I need to be bringing in consistently in order for the club to ever be inclined to do this?
- How do I get noticed as "the guy" who is bringing these hotties? did you ever talk to the managers about this?
- When you refer to getting given a table, did many drinks come free too?

Thanks for everything!
Hey Dorian_Gray,
You need to be bringing enough girls to make it worthwhile. When I was in the club scene it was 10.
Yes, talk to the managers or head promoters, that is how you get paid and get the tables and bottles.
The amount of alcohol you get depends on how many you bring. More girls equal more alcohol. You can probably get 1 vodka and 2 bottles of wine per 10 girls, though every club is different.


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Hi Adam,

I've progressed with the girl as far as possible without kissing. Handling boobs, smakcin ass, sensually biting neck, pulling hair, even sleeping together, the list goes on. But we havn't kissed yet.

I know she wants to but she has a BF. She's told me that she doesn't like him, he's away for 3 months and she likes me more.

How do I balance 'taking away' from her with still pushing forward sexually?
Hey GravesRR7,
I don't advocate going after girls with boyfriends at all. The best thing to do is tell her you won't be able to continue it until they break up. Then she won't feel guilty and have resistance.


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