Ok, there's this Cristian 17yo girl I'd like to fuck. I don't know how to bring up the subject in a proper way because I have never used PU-material to get to fuck Cristian girls before.

When she was 14, I was 17, we spent two nights together because we became good friends during the holidays. During that time we made out for hours (blueballs ftw), but I wasn't into PU-material back then so didn't have the guts to go further. Once I tried to get my fingers towards her gold-mine, but it was a clear resistance!!! However, we made out... me only covered with a boxer, but her with more clothes.

We have kept contact since then and talk regulary together. She's still a virgin and the closest to sex she has been is still making out. This I know for sure, and she is clearly obeying the Cristian rules. I want to fuck her hard, and it would be even sweeter as she's a Cristian, lol. Soon holidays are up and I want to give her the idea of us fucking already. Do any of you have some tips on how to bring up the subject in the best way possible? She knows of my girlfriend, she knows that we have sex regulary and she has asked about our sex-life (clearly she is interested in sex). She a naughty bitch inside (that I hope and KNOWS) but she can't let it out because of some fucked up religion. To put it briefly, problems:

* She knows of my girlfriend (which I consider as fuck-buddy). She would never fuck another person which is in a relationship so I have to pretend it's over between us. That Im free. Could be easy because we're not offical on any site like myspace or similar. Small problem. They don't know each other at all and live 10 hours away from each other. No similar friends
* She's a damn hard Cristian. Attend all kinds of meetings and swears to her religion. This is probably the biggest problem. If (when) we meet I know we're going to make out but how to take it further? Can't use alcohol because she's not drinking obviously. I asked her once whether she was against sex because of her religion and she answered something similar to "I have never said that I am AGAINST sex, but I wouldn't do it for "fun" if you know what I mean. If you know you're going to marry the person, I think it is ok to have sex." Does this mean that we have to be in a relationship for months before we DO IT?
* How to bring up the subject of US having sex, so she get's more interested withouth me looking needy of fucking her?

PLEASE HELP. I WILL UPDATE YOU!!!

- Consistence

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I was laughing my ass off when I read this post. I have been in this situation before and ended up jumping through all her hoops. The only way I could possibly get with this chic was to get religious with her. I went to far extremes to game this girl. I made a bold move by setting up a church date with the HB9 on the day everyone was getting baptized halaluyah. That was the only way I would isolate a girl like this. But let me tell ya she was super hott and only 21. I hate the chic now but ill tell you how the pick-up went down.

First, I drove 300 miles to my old mans house in Ohio and used him as a pivot and his house as a sex location. Set up the church date and surprised the shit out of her when I decided to get baptized in front of everyone. What do church people do after the service? They go eat, so I began with the extraction and had her and her brother follow me to a place to get some food. I knew that if I could isolate I would be able to get some attraction going on, and I did. Church girls are no different than any other girl out there, they have their needs and wants just like any other woman, they just want the security of being in a relationship before they give away their power to you (which is exactly what she is doing by having sex with you). Right now she has all the power because your not fucking her.

Next, we took things slow for about a month, texting, talking on the phone , and I even had to run a boyfriend destroyer pattern on her to get her more over her ex that she was still talking to. Eventually, I slammed a ring on her finger and asked her to marry me and after that the sex was on. That is what it took to get into this girls pants (not that I didnt have feelings for her). I had stayed focused on my mission and made sure I didnt allow myself to be put in the friend zone until I was boning her every night.

As far as this girl goes for you brother, it would be very hard to change her belief systems. She is only a 17 year old virgin so you have to ask yourself is it against your morals to bone a 17 year old virgin and take away her innocence just to say you fucked her? If you go in with that attitude I promise you that you will get no where with this girl.

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Had a chat with this girl a few hours ago. Once again we came into the subject sex... Then I had to go. It is clear that she WANTS to have sex, but it is also obvious that she CANNOT because of the fucking religion. Is it worth it to visit her? Do you think I'll lay her with some good game? Will obviously make out with her...

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- OR - you could fuck her with your balls. You're just a man and a woman, what the fuck has christianity to do with it? That should be your attitude !

(Change your attitude towards christian girls, its the least you can do.)

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Come on guys. Don't bring religion into this. She has her beliefs just like every other girl does. Yeah she is human just like everyone else. She may go against her religion, but really. You gotta respect her beliefs. You want to leave a girl better off then when you met her. That's what a PUA does.

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Yeah I gotta agree with Turbo92
I'll admit Cristian girls can get pretty aggravating, but it's a really tough one to call. And like he said you gotta leave a girl better off than the way you met them.
All I'm going to say is that don't try and game her just to f**k her. In this situation it seems like she wants someone that'll really be there for her. Be there for her. If sex is all you want use your skills to get a better girl.

On a side note, theres a lot of Cristian girls that like going to church so that they don't feel like sluts about the things they do, ironically it makes them feel worse for the things they do.

I know a hell of a lot of girls that go to the club saturday night, grind up on all the guys, and go to church the next morning. Belive me man, hit up the other girls and see where that takes you. You never know, the social proof might even help with this one (not that I'm intending to hint at anything)

My family has always said that religion and politics are two subjects that people will never agree on, that generally why I stay away from it, but if you must go after this one, take the time to make the right choice.

Sincerelly,
Chris Hart

Consistence I think you should let this one go. If you have sex with her it'll cause more headaches then it's worth. Lets weigh up the pros and cons

Pros
Sex

Cons
She WILL get emotionally attached to you.

She is a virgin and will be a dud in the sack. Doubt she'll give head and she will be too shy to make the experience fun.

If you pump and dump her she'll feel dirty like a used tissue and I personally wouldn't want that on my conscience.

If she gets upset and word gets around to other girls it's a serious cock block.

The time and effort you would have to put in to cross the finish line

Also I doubt she maintains her region which personally I find a turn off.

I'm sure you could have sex with her but I don't think it's worth the fallout that will follow.

So did you marry the girl?

Man what the heck. We're PUA's not players! There's a BIG difference between them. First off you have a girlfriend who YOU consider a fuck buddy. Does your "girlfriend" know that or will you hurt her while she believes you 2 had a decent chance on a future? That's player characteristics.

Secondly to actually get this girl, see what she wants deep in her roots. Don't talk her into sex, find out what she wants. What she craves. Maybe she seeks danger, maybe she seeks compassion. Maybe she wants adventure.. find out and make sure she is aware she can find that there. But don't talk her into it and then meet her and do it. That won't work. Tell her that you don't want it. That she's so cute being a Christian etc. Make her feel that you have a kickass fun life and that you treat her like a boring cute innocent thingy while you rock the world of many. Then if she gets crazy, make a move.

That's what I'd do. Still be sure she doesn't want more. As said: A Pua always leaves a girl better than how he found him. That is the ONLY rule there is. (3 second "rule" more being a guideline than a rule"

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Yeah man you cant expect her to change just cause your horny and your friends and the natural thing to do is to fuck her cause you feel like it..

we learn the game when we discover it and when we want something out of it, its called improving yourself, we nail this stuff into our heads so that we remember everything we can learn out of it..

religion is probably taught into this girl from a young age im guessing if she is really into it that much that her family is also into it....so think about that and think about it from her view dont be so selfish about getting laid brother...its not the end of the world..

but my advice would be to give it time, or find another girl...let her know your not waiting for her to figure out what she wants.

goodluck

Wow...
I have a feeling this is gonna be a trendy topic seeing as how it's tied to that thing I said earlier..
You know, "religion and politics"..
Yeah this might not end well

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My first post in here. Hi guys I'm brazilian and yes, we have christian girls too, and yes, a lot of them are "nice" girls, and yes, could have some cultural influence on what i'm going to say to you, but isn't this girl playing with you, Consistence? I can say, for my experience, that most girls in that age (and even younger) are smarter than most guys older than them. I don't want to be mysoginistic and stupid, but this is the first subject a young christian girl would lie about, and they are skillful liers.
Let me give you an example of what i'm talking about: a hardcore christian that i picked up. She is a friend of my brother's ex gf, and she is the ultimate church innocent girl, but she have a boyfriend and used to made out with me, flirt violently with my brother (boyfriend of her friend at the time) and sleep (yeah, you know "sleep" ZZZZ, lol) with her boss in his house. And she is 17 (i knew her last year, she was 16, and a HB . Everyone that knew her would tell you how innocent, how virgin, how christian and how faithful to her boyfriend this girl was, including her friend - they knew each other their entire life - who never get suspicious of her intentions over her boyfriend or how slut this girl was.
If i had believed in what everybody told me about her and, mostly, in her virgin innocent act (and she played it very, very well) i would never had cummed in that pretty face. And this was not the only, not the first and not even the most slut "virgin" christian girl i met. Look, my point is: you know your girl better than me, but maybe she is not a virgin. And when i say maybe, i really want to say that she fucked or is fucking someone. Fuck her, don't think twice.

Sorry for not giving you real useful tips of how to have sex with her (i'm new in the PUA world), but I could not pass without sharing my experiences with you.



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To be 100% honest here, I personally can't stand 'boys' with your mentality. You are not an aspiring PUA. You're really just coming across as a punk player. You said it all in your first sentence. She's just a girl you'd like to fuck and you seem to get some kind of sick thrill off the fact that you're getting her to violate the rules of her religion that she has been following since she was young. Who cares if she's interested in sex? Who isn't? You act like her interest is some kind of secret key to unlocking this whole thing. Like she is so different from all the other christian girls. Let me tell you something, EVERYONE is interested in sex. She just made the mistake of telling you she was which allows you to over-analyze the entire thing and take it out of context. This is all. The fact that you consider her situation, her beliefs, to be the product of some "fucked up religion" only further proves to us that once again, you only care about yourself.

As one other poster pointed out, does your "girlfriend" know that she is just a fuck buddy? That she is just an obstacle getting in the way of you fucking other women? Why would you want to do this to this girl? You already showed your disappointment at the prospect of having to invest any real time into a relationship with her before fucking her. I got a tip for not looking needy, it's called not being needy. You're just a desperate boy looking to get his dick wet and you don't care who you hurt in the process because it is all about YOU.

I'll tell you what, myself and many other men joined this community because we love women. We genuinely love women and we want to better our lives and better the lives of the women we come in contact with in the process. Have you really put any thought whatsoever into what you could do to this girl with your juvenile, 'hit it and quit it' attitude? That shit can absolutely ruin a girl like this. I have seen girls kill themselves over this exact situation. It's not a fucking game, no matter how much it may seem like it to you. It's a young girls lifestyle, of which you have zero respect for. Don't even think about coming at me with some bullshit about how I don't know anything and you're right because you've known her for years. That makes no difference. If anything that would make the situation ten times worse. She would feel that she was betrayed by someone she thought was a friend. Someone she thought actually cared.

Take my advice, walk away from this girl. Do her a favor and leave her alone. Do not rob her of the opportunity to experience a genuine connection with someone who is worthy of her. Because you sir, are not.

Bottom line, you should strive to be better than this dude. Strive to be different from the millions of other heartless guys out there. Just make the right choice, using the right head, bro.


-Panzer

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Leave her better than you found her.

People feel horrible when they go against their deepest beliefs.

You're trying to get her to do that.

'Nuff said.

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Agreed. You're probably going to get arrested if you continue down the "17-year-old, going against her religion" road.

Better off obeying the law and keeping safe.

Thanks for replies, guys.

I have decided to not try to have sex with her.

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