Man how hard is it to find a good fucking Wingman ??? like seriously... All the ones I roll with are kids - I'm only 18 - and It's such a bummer when they act like going out clubbing is a stupid thing to do.

MEN WITH GAME OUT THERE! SAVE ME! lool jp no homo, but seriously. any one practicing game from ottawa and would like a good wingman let me know

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Anxiety can kiss my ass and temptation can lick my ball sack

Agreed.

I'm 18 as well and I find it hard to find naturals whose game would compliment mine while in field.

I also find it hard to introduce friends to PUA because they would just make fun of it.

Luckily, I'm going to the club with my friends for the first time tonight, so I'll see if any of them step up or not.


SideWinderPUA

Well it is a tad stupid at our age.

Most clubs have college aged women who are interested in college aged guys and not 18 year olds. On top of that we can't drink, and that is an important part of going to a club, liquid confidence...

Dude, 18 IS college age. And girls a little bit older then us will still fuck around if we show them we're alpha.
And this guy is from Canada. He can drink at 18 (or is it 19?).

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I wouldn't really count it. With freshman year classes and studying? Who can keep good grades and go a party? You either have to be really smart, or taking a piss easy liberal art.

And what do you mean by alpha? This PUA stuff? I've been to clubs I would say about 5 times in the past year(the only times when people want to take me with them) and I do not want to go alone. I tried to PUA shit. It got nowhere. Did openers and converesed. I guess I wasn't appealing enough. Hell one chick even asked when I was going to buy her a drink, I told her I couldn't(couldn't think of something smart to say) and she walked away. Yet the people I go with are able to get older to buy them drinks...meh... Decieving women into liking you is difficult.

Well MULTIPLE people have gone from nobodys to being able to pick up girls like nothing. If it works for all these "losers," it can work for us. Look at Neil Strauss!

And go ahead, let the girl push you into buying her a drink. She's just using you man! Maybe you were doing pua wrong. I know it's worked for me with girls at my school.

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But it wouldn't of gone anywhere. I literally cannot buy a drink. How else could I of handle that situation?

If she asks you gotta say "psshh, you think I'm your little servant?!? You need to earn it!"

OR you could sarge in Canada like the guy that wrote the post

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Thanks but no thanks. Its bad enough I am token black guy in Iowa, Canada I would imagine would be worse.

But even if I said that? Then what. She'd still probably walk away or laugh, think I am an ass and stop talking to me...

billy you seriously need to get your head on straight. You need to work on what we call "inner game" which is just the stuff you have in your head. You have a classic self destructive attitude. You dont think you're good, so naturally people will see that, and also agree with you. You need to build some confidence, and some self esteem before you can begin to show others the best in themselves. Because we aren't deceiving women here, we are letting them be aware of the best possible selves they can be. You aren't tricking women into sleeping with you because you are a below average person. You are letting them be with an above average male, that exceeds her expectations, because you become that man every woman wants to be with. The only problem is that we aren't selfish, and we dont limit ourselves to one woman.

I've seen some other stuff you post up here, and I would definately consider finding some literature to help build your confidence... or find someone to help with your views on things. If you are willing to throw down some money you may be able to get a guy up here to take you under his wing. I studied underneath the doctor, and can give my vote of confidence with him, but I'm not sure if he is taking clients right now. Send me a message if you have any questions dude.

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Guys your not gana believe me but I HAVE to share this with you and you HAVE to learn from what I'm about to tell you...

I went out on my own cuz I had no wingmen a coupla days ago and I shit you not, it was the best clubbing night I've had in my last 3 months of clubbing.

4 body shots (2 payed for by the girls), 2 number closes, Made out with a HB7 and Literally had girls slapping my ass every single time I went up or down the stairway n pushing n negging me!

Not only that but i also got 25 new contacts on my phone, 14 of which are guys... but none the less really popular ones that I used to actually notice when i used to go out before, but are now begging to go out with me. fucking insane.

To be honest with you guys, I had 0 confidence just a while ago and I kidd you not now my brother - whose in highchool - told me that girls in highschool who I never even met are TALKing about me and saying that I'm the hottest guy around SPAM...
lol OF COURSE IM NOT!!! girls didnt even know i existed a month ago when I "run" the dance floor every weekend.

GET OUT THERE ! Make it happen man

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Dude I have plenty of confidence. However there are things I can and cannot do. You are suggesting that I lie to myself. For example, can I walk outside right now and fly? No. I cannot fly. And I am not going to lie to myself about it.

I was born and raised in a conservative, primarily white state by a liberal mother and grandparents. I do not have the money to go to school outside of Iowa, barely have enough to go in state.

What you are suggesting is that I lie to myself and say that I will not have any problems socializing with people expecially when I am the token black guy in all of my classes(always have been, always will be) I am proud of it to not be another idiot black drowning in welfare and drugs. However I have run into racists and people who'd rather not befriend a black guy. I am used to it. From both sides for I "act too white" for the other blacks as well.

This happens when I try to (what you'd call game, I call deceiving) women. Now I hear from people who live outside of Iowa that there are alot of 'Black guys with white girls. In Iowa not the case. I have gotten sorry I don't date black guys(could be for other reasons but that is enough) many times now.
That would be true if I was an above average male. Now this is a theme in your posts.

"Lie to yourself and make yourself believe you are better than you truly are and the a magic pixie will come and give you magical disney powers to be able to get any girl"

I am not above average.

I am short, most women like guys their height at least.
I have no money at the moment, therefore cannot afford to go do things.
I am not attractive. You cannot change your attractiveness you can lift weights, and change your clothes, but your face is your face.


You see where I am going. I do not decieve myself into thinking I am better. I know where I am and where I stand compared to others. I am average and I base what I do as far as it comes to women around it. Which is why I have low standards not hambeast low but low..
Pay someone...to hang out with me.... I am NOT that desperate for pussy or friends. I have the capacity to be alone. I haven't had friends since early middle school so I've learned how. But seriously, paying someone to hang out with you. How much of A chucklefuck (Isn't that what AFC stands for) do you think I am?

Once again I have confidence it what I can do. I do not lie to myself so that I think I am better than what I truly am.

billy the thing is what you have isnt inner game. what youve done is you have "come to terms" with what you are. you have broken yourself down enough that you can only fit into yo small corner that can handle the traits that you have deemed important.

im not going to ask you to lie to yourself because thats stupid and you wouldnt listen to me either. however, do you sometimes in day dreams and shit drift off and you are a completely different person that can achieve great things? man i bet you wished you were like the you in the dreams. now you can define the individual traits that will allow you to get closer to being that new person. what im trying to say is that youre stature, color, and physical appearence can be difficult to change, but youre mental image can be wildly different.

All of those physical aspects can be overcome with a other aspects that over shadow those, making them not important. having a very realistic view can be sobering and depressing point of view at times. but having a idealistic or optimistic view can be great for all around because it allows for creativity, spontaneity, and fun vibes. those two majorly different outcomes came from a simple switch of point of view. so billy, i suggest you take a look about you and compare him to the dream. see what he is like versus you, and then do some work to combine the two of you into one. when you get that done, you wont care at all what people say and be able to joke about what they say with people anyways, because it doesnt matter.

good luck to you my mate

but to realign this thread...
Cazzo dude, fucking awesome. every bit of that is great, except for the high school girls, lets keep this legal man. but seriously, if that is the reaction that you got out of one night, that means that you did everything right, balls to the walllll. im proud of you.

so maybe your wingman thing has been settled since you know what you are doing on this solo night. and you have 14 new guys to tryout to be The Cazzo's new wingman.

another thing though is try to keep challenging yourself. like next time, be less of the guy running all over to more k-closes and an f=close on the night. keep up the persona, but maybe make usable in personal sets with the club ladies.

Still, way to be my man