Hey all,

First of all, if I posted this in the wrong section of the forum, please move it!

I'm a typical AFC. I'm 23, have never kissed a girl, and in the 4 years I was at college, I went on 2 dates total. A friend of mine gave me "The Game" last year to read, but honestly I couldn't get into it; I've always felt pick-up artists were too douchey, and were manipulating women just for sex (no offense to anyone). I'm a pretty old-fashioned guy, but now that college has ended, I'm worried the opportunity to meet someone will be close to zero. I'm looking for a meaningful relationship...I'm not into one night stands really.

I'm not bad looking, but I am short (5'5), so of course this effects my self-esteem a lot. There are days when I'm overly confident and outgoing, and seem to have no problem initiating conversations with women, but then there are other days where I'm constantly doubting myself, and when I talk to a girl I can never think of what to say. I can't seem to figure out the trick to having more good days.

About the farthest and most comfortable I've been with a girl was when I was in Italy over the summer. I ended up sitting next to a gorgeous Spanish girl on a 6 hour bus ride. She was absolutely beautiful (easily a 9 or a 10), and to my amazement, once I said hi, our conversation flowed easily. She was giving me TONS of indicators (pulling and tugging her hair, licking her lips, looking at me, laughing at almost everything I said, rubbing her thighs), and at one point when I was showing her a map of Rome, her legs pressed against mine and she kept them there (we were both wearing shorts so it was skin to skin contact). Later during the trip when the sun went down and the lights in the bus went out, there was a moment where I made her laugh....we both looked away, then looked back at each other, and she just stared into my eyes as her smile faded....I KNEW I should have leaned in for the kiss, but since I had never kissed a girl before, I chickened out and just smiled back and looked away.

It's been 8 months, but I can't stop thinking about her...we added each other to facebook, but hardly ever talk (I am super clingy...I need to fix that). Any tips on getting over this girl?


Well there's my story. I'm not really sure where to begin, or how to start attracting women, or even how you guys can help me get started on fixing this mess I've found myself in. I wish I could interact with women like I did with that Spanish chick everyday.....it seemed so easy to attract her, but maybe American women are different? I dunno....I'm just frustrated with life and needed to vent. I'm worried that I'm getting old, and everyone else around me is having the time of their lives meeting others, yet here I am single and alone.

Thanks for reading

~Czar

They are ALL the same man.
I would suggest reading the rest of The Game. They're honestly not all douchebags, they just want to be loved. PUA is all about relationships and you can use it however you want.
Read over the forum and check out the openers. Bodylanguage is also key. If you want, watch "the pick-up artist" it aired on vh1.

This stuff works!! Use it for that long term relationship!(ltr)

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Thanks Turbo...I don't have the book anymore, and I'm too broke to go out and buy it, so I'll just keep searching the forums.

Get a copy of David Deangelo’s “double your dating”. That is a good place to start that covers all the different topics related to girls and dating. If conversation is a problem for you I would concentrate on getting into some new hobbies that would make you a more interesting guy, and also you could have some more things in common. Just talk about things your actually interested in.

Secondly I think you really need to work on your belief system and your self-esteem. I know that being short doesn’t help but there are plenty of short guys who do great with girls. Oh and you really should have kissed that Spanish chic, better to err on the side of going for it than live with regret. Even if the girl wasn’t thinking about kissing you, just showing that you’re a guy that goes for it will probably be all you need to get the girl to kiss back. Good luck and keep us updated on your progress.

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~Carmo~