OK so lately i made a decision to sit with a new group of girls every time i eat lunch and or dinner. i have #closed a few times but i really don't aim for that unless i am positive they are interested. anyway, today was my first encounter with 6 girls at a table.
i was sitting alone from a distance, finished my water, filled it back up and went back to my table, took my tray with me and i was off to the group.

"Hey can i eat some grub with you guys?"

it worked out fine, i wasn't THAT nervous about it as i knew they would be cool with it. they looked at each other and said "yeah" so i sat on the end, they pushed me over bc 3 more of their friends were coming but fortunately, the three friends sat directly across from me, and who were also the girls i talked to. anyway, i showed confidence by going to them, but when i tried to open up with their opinion on guys with beards after i stated "i looked damn good either way" (i have a slight beard) and how this girl i met yesterday called me "a sexy, homeless college student" (which i made up), they did not respond with laughter. my attempt to be cocky funny failed. i used this exact strategy before hand with one girl alone, an HB8.5 earlier in the day and she laughed and is into me.

anyway, from the start, i just could not get these girls' guards down. they were judgemental right off the bat, and i don't think i could have done anythingabout it to change their minds. HOWEVER, i talked with the three girls sitting across from me, negged them about being skiers (im a snowboarder) and they thought iwas SOMEWHAT funny. this was good as it deceased the awkwardness. i think if i would have stayed, i could have gotten the others talking too BC i was trying to make it seem like "the man" an get those girls to laugh so the remaining 3 girls would pick up on the preselection their friends made. my time constraint was maybe 10 minutes, and after i finished eating, i left. i did not want to stay once they saw my food was gone. anyway, are there any strategies that are effective in approaching a group of girls 4 or more? i am alright with 1-3 groups of girls, but am worse with larger groups as i just figured out.
these girls were-- an HB7, HB7,HB7,HB9, HB8.5,and an HB8. i was talking to two of the HB7's and one of the HB8s, who were all sitting across from me. tips would be much appreciated! -Rye

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"You're so money and you don't even know it!"

I believe the opener was not good. I would not ask if I can sit... This is completely AFC. You lost their interest at that point. Am not good at building confidence, but am good at opening and I can tell I would not open this way.

Never asks the permission to sit. That is the rule.

I would have said something funny to one of them (making fun of one of them in front of her friends for eg). I would make sure I get the attention of everyone in the table before I launch the opener. At that point, YOU are the center of interest. You made the joke and you can begin to game tight.

Then, I would put a false time constraint to lower their guard.

I believe, it would have been a different game with a good opener and a time constraint.

I saw the title and my first thought was Hurray For Rye!!!

Then i started reading the paragraph.....**EasyLover Shakes her head side to side and sighs****
I like how ur trying to get over your approach aphobia**clap**clap**
But Don't sit down with a group of girls like that who are eating dinner(Don't take this the wrong way I'm just saying)....U sat down now they were forced to put up with you even if they really didn't want u there. Thats always an awkward situation for the girls and conveys too much interest. U said they looked at eachother when u asked to eat with them they knew what u were up too......Your after the goodies
Also the set u opened had to make room for they're 3 friends they moved u away from the original set. I'm going to assume the original set Didn't introduce u to the other 3 friends who arrived later because u weren't well known enough in the set yet that a DLV towards u

time constraint of 10mins too long they were trying to eat.

Rye ur tryin' and learning thats wat counts

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So u think you can handle this?

EasyLover ur a real genius at this

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Effort surpasses Talent, but of course I already have Talent I'm just putting Effort on Top of that

No ur a genius SouthernCross

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So u think you can handle this?

NO UR A GENIUS!!!

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Effort surpasses Talent, but of course I already have Talent I'm just putting Effort on Top of that

OK OK Whatever u say goes for both of us
I don't want us fighting I'm a Lover not a fighter
oxoxox

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So u think you can handle this?

Alright Then!!!

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Effort surpasses Talent, but of course I already have Talent I'm just putting Effort on Top of that

haha yeah that was my first time approaching a group of girls of 6.. but anyway i think i am making good progress with approaching girls in twos or threes.. i always give my time constraint and play itoff like im in a hurry to do something and am just looking for people to eat with. i am in the middle of reading The Art of Suduction, and finished Mastering your Hidden Self yesterday. i am currently trying to apply these ideas in the field.. success is within reach, i can feel it, i just have to get my head straight. my first successful close is near. -Rye

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"You're so money and you don't even know it!"

Right now when your beginning, for sets of more than 4 your going to need a wing, so attention can be gathered of all there. 6 HB's is major task starting out. But props for approaching the 3 set. Regardless of how it went you still improved from the experience.

I approached a 4 set a few weeks ago and then one the other day... I tell you what man, when you can approach that many girls... whether or not you succeed... is when you start really becoming confident