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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:54 am 
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My girlfriend of 7mths broke up with me 2wks ago and i want her back

What i know:
I read matt huston's EX2 yesterday and no i should cut of contact for a while and then procede from there

The problem:
I was acting needy and constantly trying to contact her with very little response for the past 2wks before i read about cutting contact and instilling a fear of loss in her. She actually told me yesterday she was into another guy who she slept with before we got together. I know the guy and he told me he had no interest in doing anything with her, even though i made it clear we weren"t together anymore and he could do what he wanted to. When i say i was acting needy the past 2wks, i mean i'm embarassed looking back at it. I was practically begging her to talk to me, I even gave the whole just as friends thing. Very sad I really kinda lost it for a while.

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Did i ruin any chance of getting her back after the way i acted the past 2wks? Any advice on what i could do now to fix things? Is it possible to fix it?


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:09 pm 
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Background:
My girlfriend of 7mths broke up with me 2wks ago and i want her back
Ouch. I'm actually sympathetic of this. Something major happened...
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What i know:
I read matt huston's EX2 yesterday and no i should cut of contact for a while and then procede from there
Don't do that.
...or anything else until we discover the root of this issue.
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The problem:
I was acting needy and constantly trying to contact her with very little response for the past 2wks before i read about cutting contact and instilling a fear of loss in her.
You were dating for 7months? Really?

...were you ALWAYS needy? I have a hard time believing she'd be with you for 7mos if she could read you were needy and clingy.
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She actually told me yesterday she was into another guy who she slept with before we got together.
Shit Test.
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I know the guy and he told me he had no interest in doing anything with her, even though i made it clear we weren"t together anymore and he could do what he wanted to.
FAILED, and you lack backbone. Wimp.
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When i say i was acting needy the past 2wks, i mean i'm embarassed looking back at it.
Don't look back. Don't THINK.
You fucking fried yourself.

Yet, something tells me ... you weren't aware. I may be sympathetic with you.
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I was practically begging her to talk to me, I even gave the whole just as friends thing. Very sad I really kinda lost it for a while.
Well, it's obvious you were THINKING, and let your IMPULSES get the best of you.

But, something tells me you discovered an aspect of yourself that broke your frame into pieces while going out with her. You probably started thinking about her as a potential wife.

...dude, I don't think I'm going to rip you. I think I know your struggle.
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Did i ruin any chance of getting her back after the way i acted the past 2wks?
Yes and No, suprisingly.

She still feels for you, but you're acting like she's the last girl on Earth, and it's making her feel uncomfortable.

You merely need to shift your BEING, and stop THINKING about crap.
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Any advice on what i could do now to fix things? Is it possible to fix it?
My normal train of suggestion is to say Game Over; the girl is done.

But, I don't think it's over yet.
You still have a rope to climb.

If you REALLY want her, you've got a climb ahead of you. She probably doesn't want to leave you, but you've gotta remind her of the man she used to like.

Stop being so needy and clingy. BUT, you've got a climb.
A long climb.

We'll help you ascend; just stay the course.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:05 pm 
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Thanks for your post, it really helped me get some perspective. She is a girl and it seems like in terms of guys they think actually care about them, they do tend to take a while longer than a guy to get over exes. At least most of the girls i know. However, I always tend to be clingy with girls I really like; I didn't know how bad that really was until i recently did some reading. When i'm not as into a girl i tend to wanna get laid at least once a week and stay more focused on me than them. Which tends to actually make them crazy about me and leads to guaranteed sex. Therein lies the problem; how can I balance that? Also, i think over time this particular girl made me insecure; she kinda effortlessly manipulated me and made me a shell of my former self but also completely crazy for her. Seems like she naturally knew how to play the game because i know she didn't read about it. All my friends say she's at base not a good person cause they see the games she's playing with me even when i don't. I can even see it looking at it from the outside but it doesn't change how badly i want her......Any advice on how to beat her at her own games? I've definately lost up till now. Should I admit defeat? Or is there a way for me to get a chance to turn the tables on her?


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Rune gives good advice, straight forward sometimes blunt but forget the shit. Your situation is unfortunate but definitely take note, there's a reason why it went wrong after 7 months.

Ask yourself, from the top of your head, have you changed and in what way? Maybe going from Alpha to AFC.


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Thanks for your post, it really helped me get some perspective.
Welcome.
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She is a girl and it seems like in terms of guys they think actually care about them, they do tend to take a while longer than a guy to get over exes.
You're thinking.
Don't think.
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At least most of the girls i know.
You don't know them.
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However, I always tend to be clingy with girls I really like; I didn't know how bad that really was until i recently did some reading.
Through acknowledgment lies progress.
Good stuff.
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When i'm not as into a girl i tend to wanna get laid at least once a week and stay more focused on me than them. Which tends to actually make them crazy about me and leads to guaranteed sex.
It works. See?
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Therein lies the problem; how can I balance that?
Don't balance, and don't think.
Put yourself first. She will follow.
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Also, i think over time this particular girl made me insecure; she kinda effortlessly manipulated me and made me a shell of my former self but also completely crazy for her.
No, you CHOSE to be.
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Seems like she naturally knew how to play the game because i know she didn't read about it. All my friends say she's at base not a good person cause they see the games she's playing with me even when i don't.
Women were born knowing this crap, sadly.
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I can even see it looking at it from the outside but it doesn't change how badly i want her......
Focus on YOURSELF, not HER. YOU are the kingpin.
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Any advice on how to beat her at her own games?
Drop her. It'll drive her up the wall. Ignore her. Don't even give her the time of day.
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I've definately lost up till now. Should I admit defeat? Or is there a way for me to get a chance to turn the tables on her?
Stop stressing over her.
You give her more power.

She has you in her noose. She's torturing you like a little kid would torture a spider. She probably loves you.

Don't seek revenge on her; just let her go. (If you get what I'm saying).

Let her go, but don't let her go.

Don't put her on a pedestal, and do your own thing.
BUT, realize she's 100% into you, and she's trying to control you.

Don't let her weave her web; break loose.

Do it long enough, she'll jump on your cock RIGHT THEN AND THERE.


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Good posts. I'm realizing that the most important thing i lost was my manhood, not her. I used to be Alpha i lost it somewhere along the way. I remember that she was the most into me when her games backfired and i had self-respect. Before we were official she told me one morning in bed before she was going out of town for the weekend, "you know, we're not exclusive, so i can mess around with whoever i want and you can too." When she came back she found hickeys all over me from another girl. She was so surprised but she didn't have anyone to blame but herself. That night she screwed my brains out better than any other time. Then basically begged me to make it official. Things worked out alot better when i had self respect.
Somehow i started worrying more about her than me. I started seeking her validation rather than my own. Why would she wanna be with me when i wouldn't stop pleading for her attention.
I'm done begging for her to want me; I'm going back to being the kind of man women beg to be with


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