Very interesting Bits. Similar women, in terms of frame of mind, and my one was same as yours, because she's been hurt before.

What's your situation with her now?

I have a question, well kind of for you. I don't want to be friends with her, I wanted to either be with her (even though she can be mentally unstable) or not really speak like friends. I have enough good friends male and female.

So my move as you said would be the PUA right? Give the cold shoulder for a bit and wait for her contact?

You defo have more experience in this situation than me from reading your story. If she texts me today, tomorrow or what not, would you reply the same day, leave it a week? Because I do need to get at her, and let her wonder. I'm never going to ask her to meet again, if we do speak again (pretty sure she'll be in touch again sooner or later, her and my cousin always talk about me), my aim is to let her do the chasing and try to set up a date/meet.

Yesterday she refused to see me because she don't trust herself around me haha. So now I'm going to just enjoy myself and let her wonder.

Bits, thanks again for sharing your story, and your advice, it's appreciated.

Chel

Although our girls are very alike, they differ in the amount of kino. You've already escalated well with your target, while mine took a 2 meter-safe zone from me. Kino was very hard. I had to step it up, get my game rolling. Eventually it worked. Because she had to see the physiotherapist, we walked together for a couple of miles. On the way up I had my arm over her shoulder (not affraid to touch women), while we were there I texted with a (female) friend of mine, and on our way back we holded hands.
DiCarlo was right with his escalation ladder: From the holding-hands part, things could escalate and eventually we made out.

After the date we barely contacted. I was through with her (crazy bitch) and she "didn't feel what she thought she would feel". I gave her too much of the I'm-not-impressed-attitude, through which I over-DHVed (read this about value flux: http://www.seductiontuition.com/vin-dic ... value.html)

If she would text me now, I would still reply, but I'm not overly interested in her.

Being with her (intimite love) isn't just about attracting her. With solely attraction, you'd get a sex-relation with little commitment. Building comfort (talking like friends) will help you build a relationship. Read this for more about that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_theory_of_love.


The PUA-way is to give her the cold shoulder, make her go nuts so a day2 can be set on your terms. The AFC way is to build some comfort and get her.
I'm not sure where you're at. My girl told me back then that she really felt like she could tell me anything, so my comfort-game was right on. I'm not sure how far you're in comfortphase, but my guess is that you do discuss 'normal' subjects in a 2 hour telephone conversation, so your comfort should be okay then.
From the other point of view: Her refusing to see you is some lame excuse. Her feelings are mixed up: She wants you, but she's afraid to see you. A little bit of comfort-building wouldn't hurt then.

I'm not sure what you should do. Maybe you should just see how this will work out: First ignore her for a few days. Check to see if she wants a date, then build some comfort while reacting like she's in your LBJF-zone, and then make her go wild and wanting to see you.

Hope this helps you out.

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Thanks again Bits for your reply. The links provided are good sources of information too.

My comfort with her is pretty good, as stated before, she's very good friends with my cousin, she has told me stuff that she says she has never told my cousin (very private things about her) which is obviously and indicator of her trusting me and being comfortable around me. Also speaks about everyday things, takes interest in me.

Comfort has already been built to a good level, she knows me how I am, and me giving her the cold shoulder could definitely benefit me, and not put me in a worse situation, because she's so all over the place with her emotions that she'll wonder what's up.

I'm going to ignore her for a few days then. I'll see where it leads if it does.

Thanks again for your detailed reply. Appreciated.

Hmmm had a few calls today from a private number, I just ignored them, think it was the right thing to do, reason I guess it was her because of the times she usually calls were at this time.

yo chel, this kind of sounds like you've got a bit of a psychotic girl here, obviously emotionally unstable. i dont have a lot of experience with being with a girl like this, but i have experience with psyche patients (the hard shit ha). While freezing this girl out is a solid PUA choice, you should be really wary of the consequences of becoming intimate with these kinds of women. the relationship can become vary parasitic, paranoid and twisted thing. so my advice is be careful, and if you get this girl to come around to you, dont jump right into things with her and get too much tied up with her. haha probably not the most uplifting advice for you

Thanks Braden, I take it you may work in mental health or something similar?

The reason my head has been over the place is because the way she is. I didn't directly hear from her yesterday (apart from those private number calls if it were her) I think to myself I may just answer the phone if she calls now it's been a few days, or then again just wait a bit, maybe some space could have done the situation good. Guarantee if/when I speak to her, she will ask what I've been up to and if I have been with girls!

I've met a girl like this. One who just wouldn't let go. She continues to contact me even almost a year and a half later, consistently messing things up because I start thinking about her again. I don't know how to shake her loose verbally at all.

Maybe you could be honest with her, if you're ready to drop her step out of gaming her for a moment, and just tell her...the way she behaves and acts is really putting a strain on you and that you need some time away from her and she needs some time to herself as well. then try your best to avoid all contact with her.

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Matt, she got pissed off with me because she thought Iwere with other girls, even though I wasn't plus it's none of her business as we aren't together. Then told me to not contact her again, which I never, later on she contact me, I already delete her off FB, hr number etc.

It's weird, a girl must be into you forher to do that? Emotions just fuck with their heads?

Yeah...Some girls are far too emotional and hardly logical ever. I think you need to just stay away. Let her know that she told you to stop contacting her, and she should respect her own wishes and not contact you. You just need to get away from her. She's not safe and she's definitely impacting your life negatively. You can do much better, no one deserves someone with such an emotional burden, she has all sorts of problems that she doesn't want to solve herself and she thinks keeping you close will fix it for her.

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Yeah...Some girls are far too emotional and hardly logical ever. I think you need to just stay away. Let her know that she told you to stop contacting her, and she should respect her own wishes and not contact you. You just need to get away from her. She's not safe and she's definitely impacting your life negatively. You can do much better, no one deserves someone with such an emotional burden, she has all sorts of problems that she doesn't want to solve herself and she thinks keeping you close will fix it for her.[/quote]

I agree with you. As stated in the thread, she's one of my cousins best friends. The girl I was seeing, started saying if you see me about wouldyou kiss me, or at the kids birthdays (my cousins child). I said no, think I did right, this was some kind of shit test to me and I wasn't about to jump.

I agree I need to stay away.

Funny, got a call today from my cousin. They were outside my house, Saw my car and waited about 10 mins. I had 3 missed calls (phone was on silent as I just come home from the gym)

Kept the convo brief with them and gave little away. We shall see what tomorrow brings.

Also when I spoke to her on the phone, she mentioned her night out on saturday, she reckons if I turnt up me and her would have gone home after to some amazing sex.

Even though she may be mad, she's beautifull and I want to bang her. I've tried setting up meets recently and she refused so may not even suggest it. Ideas?

Chel

if you have sex with this girl she is going to glue herself to you emotionally for eternity.

i just have a feeling shes that type of girl.

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Your right Matt, fuck it, plenty more women out there. The headache is unnecessary.

Do the thing you feel best by.
At the time, I chose to go meet this girl I talked about. Just for once, no LTR. I don't regret that choice, but if I didn't do it, I probably still would be slapping myself around.

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Your right too Bits. We spoke casually today, she knows something isn't 100%. I gave her the cold shoulder, and she said she missed me etc, asked me I just evaded the question.

Now she's being funny, saw me in a pic with another girl, went mad, To be honest, I'm on verge of telling her to fuck off, now she's ignoring me, good for her aswell, because when I start ignoring her, she'll be wondering what girls I'm out with.

Thinking of using some push and pull on her, I spoke to her today, completely ignore her tomorrow and go from there.