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Ive read a shitload of books and watched a shitload of seminars. But still im not satisfied. My inner game is lacking and thats whats stopping me from success. I went from David D, to RSD, and now to Ross Jeffries. David D in my opinion is overrated. I get the impression that he doesnt put all of the best information in most of his programs because he wants to save it up for his other programs as a means of marketing.

Anyways, what has worked best for you guys inner game wise? Like what program, book, or seminar you watched had a tremendous impact on you. Please share. This will not only benefit me but all of the guys starting or who are in PUA. I really want to get this area of my life handled.


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Ive read a shitload of books and watched a shitload of seminars.
...which may be the reason for your current failures.
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But still im not satisfied. My inner game is lacking and thats whats stopping me from success. I went from David D, to RSD, and now to Ross Jeffries. David D in my opinion is overrated. I get the impression that he doesnt put all of the best information in most of his programs because he wants to save it up for his other programs as a means of marketing.
Or, you're thinking too much, not being yourself, and not aware that it's not about the techniques, but how you make people feel.
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Anyways, what has worked best for you guys inner game wise? Like what program, book, or seminar you watched had a tremendous impact on you. Please share. This will not only benefit me but all of the guys starting or who are in PUA. I really want to get this area of my life handled.
Enough with the books, the programs, and the seminar bullshits.
Screw that crap. You're YOU.

The reason you lack inner game is because you're constructing IMAGINARY obstacles based on what you've read.

The more you dwell on something, the more you fail. While you're dwelling on how to fix your inner game, some douchebag is pounding your crush and making her cum uncontrollably at her house.

Here's the remedy:

1)STOP READING SHIT!!!!! STOP IT!!!!
2)Stop thinking about what to do.
3)Start ACTING and DOING, not THINKING and MOPING.

It took me a while to realize that, and I can attest, THINGS STARTED WORKING WHEN I STOPPED THINKING about what to do.

Action friend. Take it.
Now go out there and smile.


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Yuppp, maybe. Ive tried just going and approaching people but that doesnt seem to really help. Something emotionally is holding me back I seem all the time. But I am taking action by doing all of this reading and what not. I just lack confidence letsa just say. But actually, this summer im going to start up a program called demonic confidence which is strictly based on action and developing your confidence. Im just a lil fucked up lets just say. Even Mystery before going into PUA was really fucked up. But, im willing to do whatever it takes.


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Yuppp, maybe. Ive tried just going and approaching people but that doesnt seem to really help.
Sadly, the only way out is through.
Practice Practice Practice.

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Something emotionally is holding me back I seem all the time.
Yeah, thinking.
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But I am taking action by doing all of this reading and what not. I just lack confidence letsa just say.
Practice Practice Practice.
And stop thinking. Do.
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But actually, this summer im going to start up a program called demonic confidence which is strictly based on action and developing your confidence.
Interesting. I'd love to hear the plan. PM me your program overview.
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Im just a lil fucked up lets just say. Even Mystery before going into PUA was really fucked up. But, im willing to do whatever it takes.
We all were bro. :)
We all were.

And then...we won.
I pray for your eventual victory.

Hopefully Demonic Confidence will work for you. PM me the overview; we'll share views. :)


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Holy shit I think the op read my mind! Word for word exactly what im going through including the demonic confident course which looks quite hard i might add. Funny I thought I was alone.


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Yuppp, maybe. Ive tried just going and approaching people but that doesnt seem to really help.
Sadly, the only way out is through.
Practice Practice Practice.

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Something emotionally is holding me back I seem all the time.
Yeah, thinking.
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But I am taking action by doing all of this reading and what not. I just lack confidence letsa just say.
Practice Practice Practice.
And stop thinking. Do.
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But actually, this summer im going to start up a program called demonic confidence which is strictly based on action and developing your confidence.
Interesting. I'd love to hear the plan. PM me your program overview.
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Im just a lil fucked up lets just say. Even Mystery before going into PUA was really fucked up. But, im willing to do whatever it takes.
We all were bro. :)
We all were.

And then...we won.
I pray for your eventual victory.

Hopefully Demonic Confidence will work for you. PM me the overview; we'll share views. :)
You are by far the member of this site that I respect the most simply because your responses. Kudos to you!


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Oh buddy, trust me it is quite fucking hard. I went through the workbook and it said some shit about approaching 30 girls in 2 hours? Ouch. Its gonna take alot of work buddy. But im willing to do whatever it takes to get that permanent sense of confidence they promise. I know its not gonna be easy though but im willing to do whatever it takes. I think we should create a thread soon when we start the program called the RVAIS and Msquared;] Demonic Confidence Project and post all the shit were doing and the results were seeing. What do you say? :)

About my thinking though im meditating every day for 30 minutes about my thoughts. So in a way im starting to think less and am more in the moment. Also im seeing an EMDR therapist and am seeing great results also and seeing a shift in my beliefs. This has given me alot of confidence. But this summer should be a breakthrough year for me. Demonic Confidence, Therapy, and like you say practice. practice. practice. Oh, and along with all that I might read a book or two :wink: .

But wait, your telling me that you became succesful with women just by practicing and approaching. If so, then you mustve had some pretty solid inner game. Or maybe you developed your inner game through practice. I dont care though because I know that after this summer I should have this area of my life pretty much handled.


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Oh buddy, trust me it is quite fucking hard.
Harder than most people are willing to tolerate.
(Well, maybe not as hard as European Extreme mode in Metal Gear Solid 2. NOTHING is harder than THAT monstrosity of a difficulty level).
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I went through the workbook and it said some shit about approaching 30 girls in 2 hours?
Don't do that; you'll cry a river of sorrow.
Approach 30 girls over a span of 30 days. ;)
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Ouch. Its gonna take alot of work buddy. But im willing to do whatever it takes to get that permanent sense of confidence they promise.
You're damn right! :)
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I know its not gonna be easy though but im willing to do whatever it takes. I think we should create a thread soon when we start the program called the RVAIS and Msquared;] Demonic Confidence Project and post all the shit were doing and the results were seeing. What do you say? :)
Whatever works.
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About my thinking though im meditating every day for 30 minutes about my thoughts. So in a way im starting to think less and am more in the moment. Also im seeing an EMDR therapist and am seeing great results also and seeing a shift in my beliefs. This has given me alot of confidence. But this summer should be a breakthrough year for me. Demonic Confidence, Therapy, and like you say practice. practice. practice. Oh, and along with all that I might read a book or two :wink: .
lol.
As long as you stay in the moment, and stick with the plan while in motion, you'll be a-ok.
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But wait, your telling me that you became succesful with women just by practicing and approaching. If so, then you mustve had some pretty solid inner game. Or maybe you developed your inner game through practice. I dont care though because I know that after this summer I should have this area of my life pretty much handled.
How else do you learn to ride a bike?
Or size a suit?
Or fight an opponent
Or Calculus?

Practice.

And let me tell you about my inner game development.

...over 13 years of social ostracism.

Included grammar school, high school, and my first year of college.

Guess what the answer was?
NOW.

That is the answer. The rest stems from there.

NOW.

Go forward, and good luck! :)


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Reading helps... but just HELPS... you can't read a book that will magically turn you into anything, you're putting you're hopes on techniques instead of letting the techniques help you.

Just go and discover yourself and approach, but don't just approach escalate, be blown out of sets.

and most important go and enjoy the people and the women you're going to meet

because you're stuck in you're own head with you're mindset and you're forgetting that were talking about human communication, which will include more then just you.

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Ive read a shitload of books and watched a shitload of seminars. But still im not satisfied. My inner game is lacking and thats whats stopping me from success. I went from David D, to RSD, and now to Ross Jeffries. David D in my opinion is overrated. I get the impression that he doesnt put all of the best information in most of his programs because he wants to save it up for his other programs as a means of marketing.

Anyways, what has worked best for you guys inner game wise? Like what program, book, or seminar you watched had a tremendous impact on you. Please share. This will not only benefit me but all of the guys starting or who are in PUA. I really want to get this area of my life handled.


Thanks
i agree with the other replies, and that is that you have to try it in the field!

But to give you the book that helped me the most :

The Mystery Method - The venusian arts
The Mystery Method
The Game
Natural Game


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Anyways, what has worked best for you guys inner game wise? Like what program, book, or seminar you watched had a tremendous impact on you. Please share. This will not only benefit me but all of the guys starting or who are in PUA. I really want to get this area of my life handled.
Allright, I cant believe I missed this post!

Inner game. It is a decision.

You need to take a decision, you need to practice and you need to accept... You also need to face your fears. Gonna tell you how in a moment.

Decide:
You need to decide that getting this part of your life fixed, you gotta decide if it is more important than your own comfort. Is it? Is is not?
Your own comfort as in, if things are getting tough and uncomfortable, are you prepared to remember the decision you once made? Are you prepared to face the difficulties even if it means that you need to face your fears? This is what you need to decide. If you decide that you will do whatever it takes in order to learn inner game then you have taken your first step on the way of inner game mastery.

Practice:
You need to get out there. You need as others have pointed out, to stop looking for the simple easy solution that you get from books and seminars. Sure they can help you but they can only show you the door, you are the one who has to go through it. (Yes that was Morpheus.)
You get confidence (true confidence) from knowing that you can do it. You know that you can do it because you have done it before. Or you have done similar things before and the step is small enough for you to know that you can deal with it from your previous experience. If you have done a thing enough you will get used to it, it wont be a big deal. So, you have to get this experience. you gotta get used to being in field.

Accept:
You need to accept that it is gonna be tough. You have made your decision havent you. Accept that you cant be the best on your first try. Accept that you are gonna fail several times, you are gonna crash and burn. Accept that you are gonna face difficulties and you are not always gonna feel up to the challenge. But you gonna have to accept that you have to do it anyways, if you fail or succeed isnt important. The only thing that is important is your training. That you get experience.

Facing your fears:
Your biggest challenge is facing your fears. Here your worst enemy is yourself. This is what separates the winners from the losers, the quitters from the ones who can go that extra mile and see that all it took was just that last step that you didnt think you could take but did anyway. In order to get rid of your inner demons, you gotta know what they look like. If you dont, you cannot fight them. This is what people fear the most, accepting that they have weaknesses. To honestly see themselves and their darker sides, their weaknesses and their flaws. It hurts to admit that you arent perfect, it will feel like you are not worthy of anything. It will feel like you are a complete loser. But go past it, accept that you can have problems and still be an awesome guy. This is how you can form a strategy to battle your inner demons. Take them one by one and expose yourself to them. Every time you win over one of your demons you get stronger and that demon gets weaker. As a bonus, you dont just get stronger against that specific demon, you increase your overall strength. battling the others will get easier too.

I hope this helps man, this is what I did and I went from being a pathetic loser to being much much stronger than I ever thought I could be.

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Allright, I cant believe I missed this post!

Inner game. It is a decision.

You need to take a decision, you need to practice and you need to accept... You also need to face your fears. Gonna tell you how in a moment.

Decide:
You need to decide that getting this part of your life fixed, you gotta decide if it is more important than your own comfort. Is it? Is is not?
Your own comfort as in, if things are getting tough and uncomfortable, are you prepared to remember the decision you once made? Are you prepared to face the difficulties even if it means that you need to face your fears? This is what you need to decide. If you decide that you will do whatever it takes in order to learn inner game then you have taken your first step on the way of inner game mastery.

Practice:
You need to get out there. You need as others have pointed out, to stop looking for the simple easy solution that you get from books and seminars. Sure they can help you but they can only show you the door, you are the one who has to go through it. (Yes that was Morpheus.)
You get confidence (true confidence) from knowing that you can do it. You know that you can do it because you have done it before. Or you have done similar things before and the step is small enough for you to know that you can deal with it from your previous experience. If you have done a thing enough you will get used to it, it wont be a big deal. So, you have to get this experience. you gotta get used to being in field.

Accept:
You need to accept that it is gonna be tough. You have made your decision havent you. Accept that you cant be the best on your first try. Accept that you are gonna fail several times, you are gonna crash and burn. Accept that you are gonna face difficulties and you are not always gonna feel up to the challenge. But you gonna have to accept that you have to do it anyways, if you fail or succeed isnt important. The only thing that is important is your training. That you get experience.

Facing your fears:
Your biggest challenge is facing your fears. Here your worst enemy is yourself. This is what separates the winners from the losers, the quitters from the ones who can go that extra mile and see that all it took was just that last step that you didnt think you could take but did anyway. In order to get rid of your inner demons, you gotta know what they look like. If you dont, you cannot fight them. This is what people fear the most, accepting that they have weaknesses. To honestly see themselves and their darker sides, their weaknesses and their flaws. It hurts to admit that you arent perfect, it will feel like you are not worthy of anything. It will feel like you are a complete loser. But go past it, accept that you can have problems and still be an awesome guy. This is how you can form a strategy to battle your inner demons. Take them one by one and expose yourself to them. Every time you win over one of your demons you get stronger and that demon gets weaker. As a bonus, you dont just get stronger against that specific demon, you increase your overall strength. battling the others will get easier too.

I hope this helps man, this is what I did and I went from being a pathetic loser to being much much stronger than I ever thought I could be.

That did fucking help. I must go out there and conquer my fears. I just have a really hard time of approaching strangers and gathering up the courage to do so. I need a fucking wing. A wing would help out alot. Hed be there to have my back and would give me advice. But thats another weakness of mine. The need of a wing.

What im lacking right now is confidence. But in order to get confidence I need to do what im afraid of. Not gonna lie but all ive been doing mostly was just reading books and watching seminars without alot of in-field experience. This is my flaw and this summer thats about to change. Im gonna do a program called demonic confidence for 21 days. This shits gonna be fucking hard. I looked through the work book and jesus fucking christ. But the reward for doing all of that is a permanent state of confidence that some say is beyond confidence. Its called demonic confidence. Its based of of conditioning your mind.

Fuck it, whats the worst that could happen? Rejection, big fucking deal. All I know is that after those 21 days if I stick to the program this will be the decision that changed my life.


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The advice given here is incredible.

I may not have the skill to post beautifully scripted wisdom here but i will add my own advice for what its worth.

SELF BELIEF

You really need to believe in yourself.

This is easily said i know.

Anybody in time can be confident, but you need to be competent as well.
I have many idea's on why some guys are having problems on this site as i believe they expect instant results. Also that if you hit on 30 girls in a week at leat 1 will like you. Thats called playing the numbers.

I think EZO said in onther post, as you develope slowly you will after a while power up.
Then you can go back over previous levels gaining experiance before you are ready to power up again.

Mystery spend many many years travelling to and from toronto getting totally blown out until he evolved into the guy we all know today.
In other words he powered up slowly, gaining experiance year after year.

Be patient.
Don't be negative and think of all the girls who told mystery to f..k off years ago.
Laugh and the world laughs with you.

Like my old man used to say to me.

Don't worry about it son, it will all come out in the wash. Ha Ha

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