Hello guys. I recently found this forum and it seems very good with alot of experienced players. However, here's the deal:

Ive been in a relationship for 3 years now, I found out about the community just some weeks before I got my girlfriend. However, it ended last week, and during this period Ive been reading ALOT of PUA material. Everything from MM step a1-a2-a3-etc model to RSD inner game stuff, david deangelo, swingcat etc.

Its time for me to stary my journey, but Im so fucking confused. What method should I follow? Is it unneccesary with outer game like RSD says? Is inner game everything? How many ppl are actually GOOD in this community and can attract alot of girls?? Ive got the impression that theres alot of dudes who seem to be good at the forums but they suck infield, like keyboard jockeys. I dont wanna be like one of those, I want RESULTS and I want to bang alot of hot girls, Im very very horny, lol.

However, can someone who have gotten good results please help me out here, where to start? What should I follow? What should I listen too?

Thanks guys, I really hope you help me out here.

many are competent, but good? not many.

If you want result then check out gunwitch and try to get a hold of 60 years of challenge material.

you can find his forum here:

www.theseducers.com


What you're going through is pretty normal for someone who reads alot and doesn't do crap in-field. You get confused. You should be spending more time in-field than you'd be reading about it. You don't call a plumber just to send him off with "nah man, it was a joke, there's nothing to fix"

Go say hi, what's up to a couple of people and try to figure out where the po ah knowledge you have fit, it's called calibiration and it's HUGE.

inner game is the ultimate goal.

MM is a good guide if you have zero social ability and get off on leveling and calculating the DPS of your WoW character.

Gunwitch is for people already most of the way there and just want more sex.



I use Gambler and Tynan/Herbal because they mesh good with my personality and are focused on simply clarifying aspects of social interaction to give you an edge and are mostly meant for guys that are decent socially but not necessarily great with girls.

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I wouldn't say there is a best out there. It comes down to different strokes for different folks. Whether you for for something indirect like Mystery Method, or direct like RSD, the best thing you can do is pick one and stick with it. Don't overload yourself with info and find what works for you. I personally related more to direct and natural game.

What I did was, I havent read tons of PUA stuff,
all that i looked for was a system, and then try it in the field.
And it has so far worked out for me.

I took the basic system of mystery, with a1, a2 etc
And the things i dont like, i throw out, and put stuff in it from other PUA, like Gambler and style.

All in all I think 60 Years Of Challenge has the best method from what I've seen (and tried for myself) so far.

Super simple and super potent. Less is more.

It might not be the most newbie-friendly method, though.

I'll tell you something right now; you are going to get a different answer from pretty much every member on this forum. That's something you'll notice here; lots of conflicting opinions, which may make for arguments sometimes, but it leads to a very diversified melting pot of opinions and points of view. So as time goes on you will find the method that best suits you - you will lean toward a certain side of the melting pot, with a certain group of opinions.

Stay open minded though. Never refute someone else's opinion as stupid or inferior. Always see the value in someone's advice.

As for the best method, I would say there isn't a best method. Probably the answer you'd expect to hear, that there is no best one and that they are all good in their own respect. But this really holds true. It all depends on YOUR personality, how YOU interact with women, and how your mind works. Some like the scripted and highly technical Mystery Method, some prefer more natural game, some stick with routines while others follow principles. What you should do at this point is play around a bit. Organize yourself, gather your thoughts, and look through some of these forums to find some basics of different methods. Take some notes, remember the basics, and bring them into the field with you and see which ones work FOR YOU, regardless what anyone else says about them.

Game is confusing, I'll tell you that right now. I have been here since September 2009 and I still hardly have a grasp of the basics. I'll give you a tip right now: try not to over analyze. Human nature doesn't follow logic. Try not to rationalize everything. There won't be a reason for everything. Just pick something and go for it. Keep practicing, and don't quit on yourself, ever. If you find yourself letting go, remind yourself of how badly you want it, and kick yourself to keep going. See a girl you want, and go for it.

Good luck.

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^ If MM can get guys that nerdy, sexy woman nightly then it must be a powerful tool indeed.


Start with MM to get you started, stick with it untill you know how to approach, transition and generate attraction, and close. Then move onto inner game stuff RSD ect.

if you want more one night stands, and youre not a social retard then 60 years of challenge would be perfect

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if you want to waste a buttload of time getting nowhere then Mystery Method would be perfect