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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:29 am 
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I think you're right on bro. Leave her hanging for a while. Make her realize what she's gonna lose. Make it apparent to your cousin that you're still gonna go out and have fun with or without her friend.... girls talk. If it backfires then so what? Next please! lol... goodluck bro
I probably did give her to much attention when we went out, but I made it that I received more than I gave. So I flopped there a bit.

I like this girl a lot, she's relationship material but one thing game has taught me is not to let emotions get me over. Last night we were fine again after I froze her out for a bit.

Now she's saying how we can't be together because she's messed up, my cousin told me it's because she loves me and she's never felt like this about someone before. I've tried to comfort the girl but it's the same attitude.

Now I'm going to freeze for longer, I guess that's right? Being the stubborn person I am and can be. I'm going to delete her BB, I was going to remove her from FB, she's always constantly checking my page. (Openly admits) She don't like it when other girls message me and stuff.

So do I remove her from fb and let her wonder what's going on? Or do I leave her on there, speak to other women and maybe draw some attention to my page? I'm not going to lose out on this one. When I get pushed away I make sure the girl regrets it.

Thanks for your advice guys. It's appreciated.


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A lil update for all. Everything went okay, after ignoring her for a bit. I was meant to see her tomorrow, now it's back to square one. She's gone all funny, says we should end all communication etc. My cousin reckons she will come running when I don't give her attention. Being how stubborn I am I deleted her number etc.

Shall I just ignore her completely if she messages me or anything?

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Saw her yesterday, was all good, she was all over me, kino'd a lot too.

Now she's saying she can't be in a relationship, she don't know how to be and don't trust me. I went out last night with a few friends, had about 10 texts off her, asking why am i out, who with, asking if girls were there etc.

She obviously gets jealous. I'm not going to play silly games forever but what would your move be now? Give her the cold shoulder and ignore her for a day? That's what came into my mind.


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If you really really like her, just make her your official girlfriend. She seems ready for it.

But, from your story I'm getting that she might be stalkerish (and thus, emotionally unstable). Make sure you really really want this girl, then go for it.
IMHO you're game is spot on, don't worry about that. Commit to her, to end up all the silly games you two are playing.

This actually is my most AFCish-advice ever... but it may help you.
How long have you two been seeing eachother?

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If you really really like her, just make her your official girlfriend. She seems ready for it.

But, from your story I'm getting that she might be stalkerish (and thus, emotionally unstable). Make sure you really really want this girl, then go for it.
IMHO you're game is spot on, don't worry about that. Commit to her, to end up all the silly games you two are playing.

This actually is my most AFCish-advice ever... but it may help you.
How long have you two been seeing eachother?
Bits my friend you hit the nailon the head regarding her being emotionally unstable. She is unstable.

I do want her, she's great looking, very caring and loyal, known her for a long time as she's my cousins best friend. Been seeing her for around a month, she always wants to meet, then says it's not a good idea.

We were meant to see eachother tomorrow, now she's saying it's not a good idea. She says she dunno how to be in a relationship, i try re assuring her, 10 mins later back to square 1. I said things need to flow because we're taking 1 step forward and 2 back. We were official for a week and then she said she can't do it.

She can't stand other girls looking at me, she don't like me giving other women attention, jealousy is a sign of envy in my eyes.

So I have come up with 3 options:

1. Act normal how I've been, wait untill tomorrow and ask what time to go round. . . If she says the time I'll go, if not I'm cutting my ties there and then because I'm no mug.

2. Act normal, and don't even mention tomorrow, and if she doesn't, again cut my ties for the same reason as number one.

or 3: From tonight be a bit awkward, don't message her or anything until she does tomorrow if she does and not even mention friday night.

I'm swaying towards 3 because I'm feeling like a yo-yo!

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Hmmm she called me, Asks where I'm going tonight and who with, I changed the subject and asked about seeing her tomorrow as planned and she refuses. So time for the cold shoulder I think?


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Wow, she must really being into reading magazines....'cause she has a lot of issues. 8)

Is there a third-party interfering here? Because it's weird that she's 100% cool with you while she's with you, then when she's away, she starts getting flakey. Maybe I missed something?

I'm a newb, but maybe try confronting her flakeyness by saying something like, "Are you my girl or not? 'Cause if you're not, then you don't have any say in who I go out with. BUT, if you're wanting to take this to the next level, like I'm thinking that you are, I can stand a little bit of jealousy, but I need some trust and respect from you, and I'm not getting that right now. Talk to me," then listen.

Your field report here seems like you've got your game tight....at least I can't find fault in it. She might just be right when she says she's not ready yet. In which case, the choice is either stick with her and nurture her emotional well-being to the point that she's strong enough to hang with you without being wishy-washy, or cut bait and just move on.


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Wow, she must really being into reading magazines....'cause she has a lot of issues. 8)

Is there a third-party interfering here? Because it's weird that she's 100% cool with you while she's with you, then when she's away, she starts getting flakey. Maybe I missed something?

I'm a newb, but maybe try confronting her flakeyness by saying something like, "Are you my girl or not? 'Cause if you're not, then you don't have any say in who I go out with. BUT, if you're wanting to take this to the next level, like I'm thinking that you are, I can stand a little bit of jealousy, but I need some trust and respect from you, and I'm not getting that right now. Talk to me," then listen.

Your field report here seems like you've got your game tight....at least I can't find fault in it. She might just be right when she says she's not ready yet. In which case, the choice is either stick with her and nurture her emotional well-being to the point that she's strong enough to hang with you without being wishy-washy, or cut bait and just move on.
Hey man, thanks for your input, appreciate your post. I know 100% there is no 3rd party. Her emotions are playing with her, because she has been hurt bad in the past

I did something similar to what you suggested Dark, she said we're not together, but i mentioned her getting jealous and she admited she wants nobody else to be with me. I think she's playing hard now. I wont chase and chase. I've decided to go the hard shoulder route now, because to be honest, I'm thinking, I really don't want shit like this anyway. See where I'm coming from?

I'm cutting the bait slowly, if she gets in touch, and I want to reply I will, if not, there's alot more to game. I may sound cocky, but the way she's jealous tells me, she'll be in touch, me giving her no reply's will make her wonder what's going on with me.

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Well, sorry that the pendulum is swinging away from LTR between the two of you, but I guess sometimes stuff just happens. I still hope for the best though....that part of the AFC in me just won't die, no matter how hard I work at it! :lol:


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She WILL contact you again, so you can wait for her to do that if you want.

Gad... "Let's not date, but I hate seeing you with anyone else" ... that's a problem, and it's so not yours. I think you're making the right choice here, distancing yourself for a bit.


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She WILL contact you again, so you can wait for her to do that if you want.

Gad... "Let's not date, but I hate seeing you with anyone else" ... that's a problem, and it's so not yours. I think you're making the right choice here, distancing yourself for a bit.
I agree. I've really tried to change from being an AFC. Usually my AFC shows when I'm into a girl, this time it's changing, I guess experience changes things.

I've distanced myself, if she contacts me today I probably wont reply, or untill late tonight. I still get the feeling she's testing me, she wants a hold on me, but it wont happen. Ignore everything today is my question to you guys? That's if she contacts me today, or ignore contact the next time?

Thanks alot for the reply's guys, it does help me sharing this, keeps me away from being AFC.

Will keep you updated.


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She text me about 20 minutes ago saying "u ok" . Straight forward, tells me she's kind of thinking of me, she used to get instant replies from me.

Do I text back? Or do what I said and totally ignore it? I feel like beng cocky and saying" Never felt better lol". That wont really get me anywhere though.


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Update :

She called me from a different number, onto my work phone aswell. I had 4 missed called, So I then had to answer the 5th it as it could have been anyone or an important work related topic.

So yeah turn out to be her, she started asking me what I'm doing being normal again. I told her to just leave me alone now, the girls the biggest head fuck going, her constantly calling me shows this, especially countless times. I told her to go her own way and I'm doing the same.

She mentioned other girls again, I said to her, we're not together so I'll do what I want, and I said have fun tonight and her being around other guys don't bother me, she got annoyed (she's going out). She called me deluded, which I am not the one deluded here, it's her, as she can't let go and hates the thought of me being with other women.

Connection cut now.

Thanks everyone for your input. Still your replies are appreciated, I think she will contact me again sooner or later.

Chel.


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Update for anyone reading:

Didn't contact her or nothing. Last night I was out got a text at 2am when I was out clubbing, saying I hope your having fun with the girls. I said " Thanks, likewise" wish I never replied in a way.

She called me and woke me up this morning, we briefly spoke. She admited she can't really let me go and doesn't want me to be with anyone else. The girl is a bit mad, not normal behaviour the way she spies on me and stuff. She gets very jealous, which I'm not a jealous person.

She then text me after the conversation saying "your perfect, I just don't feel ready for a relationship" She wants a response, she has done this before. Her being jealous over me is a positive, and after everything I am glad things never developed, she needs to sort her head out.

So now I'm going to totally ignore every text or call today from her, and from tomorrow. Let her wonder what I'm getting up to, I have lost a lot of interest....


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I'd like to share this story with you, because IMO the girls are similar:

August 2009 I met this girl on a beachvolleyball tournament. I noticed her (the only pretty girl of my age around there) and some time later she was sitting next to me and we started talking.
That day we connected, but apart from holding hands, it didn't escalate. We continued convo on MSN later, and with my complete AFCness I opened up my feelings to quickly. A proper day2 never occured.
Even though my game sucked, we kept talking because I was able to build some attraction, killing it each time by saying I liked her when she said she liked me. That's when I noticed: Emotionally unstable. Her opinion on me was purely based on the emotions I brought up last time I talked to her.

So, when I started to get in the PUA-world by January, things shifted: I hadn't talked (text/msn) to her in a while, but the night I did, it was on. I DHVed myself by telling her I meet lots of college-chicks, DQed her because she couldn't ski, gave her IOIs followed by IODs until the very moment she completely cracked open. From that moment I wasn't the one who tried to initiate a date, she now tried.
Things were on my terms now, and we chose a day for the date. It was difficult, because she had to work until 2PM, and I had an important match from 4PM, and we had to travel one hour to get to each other (public transport sucks).
I told her she could trade her shift with a friend of hers, so we were able to get together. Because of some mysterious reason, she didn't want to. When her lack of taking action was getting in the way of our date, I gave her the could shoulder, confronting her with her flakyness, and ignoring her for 1 month.

She came back, giving me some long email about how she actually did like me and couldn't get me out of her mind blablabla. She also mentioned that her feelings got hurt in the past before. Suddenly she could skip practice, school, work etc. just to get with me. So we had the date, and things are all fine (though we didn't hook up because of her unstable state).




So, what did I learn from this story? If she is unstable, flaky and playing hard to get: Be the PUA.
Maintain a mindset (and tell her) that you can get any girl you want, that you meet lots of girls, that you're not settling for just some random good looking girl and that you don't accept her flakyness. This will make her go cuckoo until she just has to see you again. Let her know that you don't give shit about a telephone conversation since it isn't the same as a real-life meet (and we already noticed that your normal game is spotless, but your phone game is not)
Go meet some other girls, get her out of your head and you'll notice that you will end up with her.



Edit: Like you just posted. Good work!

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